Quaternions: Extension of Real Numbers?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether quaternions should be considered an extension of the real numbers, similar to how complex numbers are viewed as extensions of the real numbers. Participants explore the nature of quaternions, their components, and their relationship to complex numbers and vectors.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that quaternions are generalizations of 3-vectors, akin to how complex numbers generalize 2-vectors.
  • Others argue that quaternions should be viewed as generalizations of 4-vectors due to their four components.
  • One participant expresses confusion, initially thinking quaternions were merely an extension of complex numbers by adding one more part.
  • Another participant notes that Hamilton's attempts to extend complex numbers led to the development of quaternions, suggesting they are indeed an extension of complex numbers.
  • A participant reflects on their previous misunderstanding of quaternions as a 3-dimensional version of real numbers, indicating a shift in understanding after researching the topic.
  • One participant asserts that quaternions should undoubtedly be considered an extension of the real numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether quaternions are extensions of real numbers or complex numbers, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on historical context regarding Hamilton's motivations and the definitions of quaternions, which may not be universally agreed upon or fully resolved in the discussion.

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Quaternions are generalizations of 3- vectors, in the same as complex numbers are generalizations of 2- vectors. Should quaternions be considered an extension of the real numbers as the complex numbers were?
 
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Topolfractal said:
Quaternions are generalizations of 3- vectors, in the same as complex numbers are generalizations of 2- vectors. Should quaternions be considered an extension of the real numbers as the complex numbers were?
Wouldn't they be considered generalizations of 4-vectors? A quaternion has four components.
 
Oh I thought quaternions were just adding 1 more part to a complex number. I must be way wrong.
 
Topolfractal said:
Oh I thought quaternions were just adding 1 more part to a complex number. I must be way wrong.
The "quatern" part comes from Latin, meaning "four times."

A quaternion has the form q = ai + bj + ck + d, where i, j, and k are such that i2 = j2 = k2 = -1.
 
Topolfractal said:
Oh I thought quaternions were just adding 1 more part to a complex number. I must be way wrong.

You are not alone. My recollection is that Hamilton was trying to add one more dimension to complex number to make a three part number. He wasn't able to find a way to make add just one dimension and have it be an extension of the complex numbers. Quaternions, however, are an extension to the complex numbers.
 
DrewD said:
You are not alone. My recollection is that Hamilton was trying to add one more dimension to complex number to make a three part number. He wasn't able to find a way to make add just one dimension and have it be an extension of the complex numbers. Quaternions, however, are an extension to the complex numbers.
Thank you, and you for the longest time having not researched quaternions in depth, I always thought they were a 3-d version of the real numbers with three components. After reading the Wikipedia article on quaternion I understand Hamilton's motivation behind the four parts now.
 
Topolfractal said:
Quaternions are generalizations of 3- vectors, in the same as complex numbers are generalizations of 2- vectors. Should quaternions be considered an extension of the real numbers as the complex numbers were?
Yes, undoubtedly!
 

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