Reality conditions on representations of classical groups

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The discussion revolves around the properties of representations of classical groups, particularly focusing on the distinctions between the groups and their corresponding algebras. Participants explore claims made in John Baez's work regarding the nature of irreducible continuous unitary representations of compact Lie groups, specifically addressing the cases of SO(n) and Dn.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant references Baez's assertion that all irreducible continuous unitary representations of compact simple Lie groups are real or quaternionic, except for certain types, including Dn with n odd.
  • Another participant clarifies the distinction between SO(n) as a group and so(n) as an algebra, noting that D(n) corresponds to so(2n) and that the spinor representation is sometimes referred to as Spin(n).
  • A participant questions whether SO(2n) as a group can be considered a representation of so(2n) as an algebra.
  • Another participant reiterates the question about the relationship between the algebra and the group, suggesting that the algebra counts as a representation of the group.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between the groups and algebras, particularly regarding the classification of representations. The discussion remains unresolved as participants explore these distinctions without reaching consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the definitions and typographical conventions used for groups and algebras, which may affect the clarity of the claims being made.

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I'm reading "Division Algebras and Quantum Theory" by John Baez

https://arxiv.org/abs/1101.5690

In the last paragraph of section 5 (Applications) he says the following

"SU(2) is not the only compact Lie group with the property that all its irreducible continuous unitary representations on complex Hilbert spaces are real or quaternionic. ...All compact simple Lie groups have this property except those of type An for n > 1, Dn with n odd, and E6. For the symmetric groups Sn, the orthogonal groups O(n), and the special orthogonal groups SO(n) for n ≥ 3, all representations are in fact real"On the one hand he says that for Dn with n odd we have irreducible continuous unitary representations that are neither real nor quaternionic (so they're complex). But then he says that the representations of SO(n) are real for n ≥ 3.

But Dn is SO(2n) so which of these is true?
 
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One has to distinguish between SO(n) the group and SO(n) the algebra. I've seen the group and the algebra given different typography, like SO(n) for the group and so(n) for the algebra. Thus, D(n) = so(2n), and SO(n) is the vector representation of so(n). The spinor representation of so(n) is sometimes called Spin(n).
 
Yeah, but surely SO(2n) the group counts as a representation of so(2n) the algebra, doesn't it?
 
hideelo said:
Yeah, but surely SO(2n) the group counts as a representation of so(2n) the algebra, doesn't it?
The algebra ##\mathfrak{g}## counts as a representation of the group ##G##.
 

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