Question About 3D Printing and Cancerous Liver

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential implications of 3D printing technology in organ transplantation, specifically regarding the treatment of terminal liver cancer and related conditions like atherosclerosis. Participants explore the feasibility, challenges, and theoretical outcomes of using 3D printed organs in medical applications.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a 3D printed liver could cure terminal cancer if it were the only affected organ, inviting speculation on the conditions required for such a scenario.
  • Another participant suggests that if the cancer had not spread and the replacement liver was healthy, a cure could be possible, but notes the current limitations in producing reliable 3D printed organs.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of synthetic organs, with some participants emphasizing that current examples, like the trachea transplant, involve synthetic materials rather than fully functional biological organs.
  • One participant speculates that if fully functional 3D printed organs were available, survival rates for cancer might improve, while also raising the question of whether similar principles could apply to atherosclerosis.
  • Concerns are raised about the trauma involved in replacing major arteries, suggesting that even with reliable replacements, such procedures might not be feasible.
  • A participant discusses the complexity of organ composition, noting that a liver requires various cell types and suggesting a combination of printing and natural regeneration could be necessary for successful organ creation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and implications of 3D printed organs, with no consensus reached on the effectiveness or practicality of such technologies in treating cancer or other conditions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the current state of technology in organ printing, the complexity of organ structures, and the potential trauma associated with major surgical procedures. Participants acknowledge these challenges without resolving them.

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With all the hype of 3D printed organs lately, I've wondered: let's say that someone with terminal cancer in the liver undergoes a liver transplant with a completely new 3D printed organ. Assuming that this was the only organ affected, would this rid them of the cancer? If so, why? And if not, why not?
 
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If the cancer had not spread beyond the liver and the in vitro grown replacement liver was perfectly healthy then yes: they would be cured. Bear in mind though that we're still not ready to start producing replacement organs this way. There are very few regenerative medicine products on the market and whilst there have been some transplants (like this trachea operation) we cannot yet reliably produce healthy organs.
 
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That's what we're counting on you for, Ryan! :smile:
 
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That's an Ikea synthetic nano-throat, not a real organ with living cells. I dear say not quite organ-like, as questioned. Some road to be paved, I expect. Not principally impossible, though pig organs may be more realistic, for now.
 
The trachea was a synthetic polymer loaded with cells taken from the patient, it was biological in nature.
 
Well, still a synthetic implement, though human cells grew on it. Which is good.
 
I'd imagine that if we were able to reliably build fully functional 3D printed organs, survival rates for cancer would be higher (assuming that you didn't get cancer in a body part that isn't replaceable, like the brain for example).

I don't want to stray too far off topic, but would the same principle apply for atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries)? That's a major killer, and if we simply replaced the heart or even arteries with biologically printed parts then that should, in principle, prevent heart attacks, heart disease, etc. (although it would still affect smaller arteries).

Again, this is assuming that we are able to build RELIABLE 3D printed body parts.
 
davgonz90 said:
I don't want to stray too far off topic, but would the same principle apply for atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries)? That's a major killer, and if we simply replaced the heart or even arteries with biologically printed parts then that should, in principle, prevent heart attacks, heart disease, etc. (although it would still affect smaller arteries)

I think taking arteries out and replacing them, even if you had a reliable replacement, would likely be such a major trauma to the body that is would not be workable.

I am reminded of some information I gave to my heart doctor. "If you were to take all the veins and arteries out of my body and stretch them end to end ... I would die, so don't DO that !"
 
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I think taking arteries out and replacing them, even if you had a reliable replacement, would likely be such a major trauma to the body that is would not be workable.

I am reminded of some information I gave to my heart doctor. "If you were to take all the veins and arteries out of my body and stretch them end to end ... I would die, so don't DO that !"
Hahaha, I'm totally saying that at my next doctor's appointment.
 
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Let's see if I can remember from my biology text. Organs are made up of different tissues, which are made up of different cells. At the very least, a liver is going to need liver cells (obviously), it's also going to need nerve cells, and cells that make up the walls of the capillaries, arteries and veins, as well as the cells making up the bile ducts. I'm not saying you can't print an organ yet; but you're going to need a lot more than just 4 cell reservoirs for all the different types. What I can see is a combination of printing for the organ scaffolding and maybe simple vascularization that would allow the body to regenerate the organ from donor cells. Not simple, but then nothing worth while is tha simple anyway.

I am NOT a Doctor of Medicine. Take any advice with a pound of salt. (Or maybe not salt. Don't want to raise your blood pressure!)
 

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