Question about Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser

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The discussion revolves around the Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser (DCQE) experiment, specifically questioning the conditions under which interference patterns can be observed. Participants explore the implications of "which way" information and the role of data analysis in the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that interference in the DCQE experiment is only observable after data analysis, regardless of future events for idler photons.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of a diagram featuring a triangle with an on/off switch, suggesting it may not contribute to the discussion.
  • A participant argues that "which way" information still exists in the system, even if it is not directly accessible, due to the different momenta of rays reaching the detector.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the terminology of "which way" and "information erasure," indicating discomfort with discussing the system in those terms.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on whether the question pertains to the absence of an interference pattern without considering coincidence detection.
  • A participant challenges the assumption that interference cannot be seen in the modified experiment, suggesting that it may indeed be observable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the existence and implications of "which way" information and whether interference patterns can be observed in the modified experiment. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives present.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of discussing the DCQE experiment in terms of "information" and "which way," indicating that assumptions and definitions may vary among contributors.

LikenTs
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As almost everybody knows, DCQE experiment only shows interference after the data analysis, never in the first instance, regardless of future events for idler photons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser

So, my question is, why you cannot see interference with this simple and simetric modified experiment, where there is not which way information?

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What is that triangle with an on/off switch? And what is the switch?
 
MichPod said:
What is that triangle with an on/off switch?

Nothing, the picture is not mine. I think the original autor wanted to use this experiment for communication, that is not allowed.
As far as my question goes you can ignore that switch.
 
LikenTs said:
where there is not which way information?

This information still does exist (it is not "erased"). The red and blue rays coming at D4 detector have different momentum coming at different angles. Then this information is absorbed into the detector. We cannot get it, but it still is present first in the detector micro-state and then in the environment.

Upd: and you can see that this is not the case in the original DCQE experiment where two light beams are perfectly aligned by a system of mirrors.
 
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BTW, I am not sure that talking here in terms of "which way" or "information erasure" makes much sense. That is, if I write formulas, I can more or less see how this particular configuration may fail to produce interference pattern, but I am not comfortable to discuss this system in terms of "information", "which way" etc (may be somebody else is? ) and my explanations in these terms may be wrong.
 
LikenTs said:
As almost everybody knows, DCQE experiment only shows interference after the data analysis, never in the first instance, regardless of future events for idler photons.

So, my question is, why you cannot see interference with this simple and simetric modified experiment, where there is not which way information?

Is your question: "Why is there no interference pattern on the top side, without considering coincidence detection?"
 
LikenTs said:
So, my question is, why you cannot see interference with this simple and simetric modified experiment, where there is not which way information?
I suppose you ask about interference in coincidences judging by first sentence in your post.
Then let me ask, why do you think you cannot see interference? Because I think you can.
 

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