Question about engineering college choice

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The discussion revolves around the decision-making process for selecting a mechanical engineering college, considering factors such as cost, school prestige, and potential career outcomes. Participants share their perspectives on the implications of attending various institutions, including Michigan State, Purdue, Rose Hulman, and Northern Illinois University, as well as the importance of co-op programs and extracurricular activities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the debt incurred from attending more prestigious schools is justified compared to the potential benefits of attending a less expensive institution like NIU.
  • Another participant emphasizes that job prospects depend on various factors beyond school prestige, such as extracurricular involvement and co-op experiences.
  • Some participants argue that any accredited engineering school, if it has a co-op program, can provide a solid education and career opportunities.
  • A participant shares personal experience, suggesting that graduates from NIU have successfully found jobs, while expressing skepticism about the value of rankings from sources like US News and World Report.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of location, with one participant suggesting that schools in industrial areas may offer better internship opportunities.
  • Several participants inquire about which schools are located in heavily industrialized areas, indicating a shared interest in practical considerations for engineering education.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that cost and practical experience (such as co-ops) are important factors in choosing a college, but there is no consensus on the relative importance of school prestige versus affordability. Multiple competing views remain regarding the impact of school choice on future career success.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express personal experiences that may not be universally applicable, and there are varying opinions on the significance of college rankings and the relationship between school prestige and job outcomes.

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My son (act 31) is having trouble choosing his mechanical engineering college. He has been accepted by Michigan State at Ann Arbor (and offered a scholastic scholarship of $6000 + international study scholarship of $5000), Rose Hulman, and expects to be accepted by Purdue. (He has not applied to University of Illinois as they require that you choose your specialty upfront, and it's very difficult to change from one field of engineering to another.) He has also been accepted by Northern Illinois University. NIU is significantly cheaper than the other schools. The question - is the large student loan debt he would have to take on to go to the more prestigious schools really worth it? In the long run, if he was to go to NIU and do coop/internship, would he be at a significant disadvantage considering the significant savings in tuition, etc.? He doesn't want to go deeply into debt, but at the same time he doesn't want to cheapskate himself out of a good career start. Any thoughts?
 
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Personally, once a student graduates, a job is a job. School prestige is only one part of the puzzle that recruiter look at. They also consider extra-curricular activities, especially if one holds an officer position (demonstrates leadership potential). Another important aspect is a co-operative (co-op) for 2 semesters (demonstrates that the major is the right choice). I recommend a school that is affordable, not one that breaks the bank (or the parents).
 
I agree. If it's not MIT, then any other accredited 4 year engineering school will be fine. If the school has a co-op program, all the better.
 
Michigan State is located in Lansing, University of Michigan is in Ann Arbor.

I concur with the posts above. I have worked with many engineering graduates from MSU and UofM along with Purdue. All were pretty sharp and successful except for UofM. I don't know how the hell that school gets such high rankings because its certainly not reflected in its graduates. Anyway, I would just pick a school that is located in a heavily engineer/industrial populated area. Such schools offer the most co-ops/internships and the professors that have real world engineering experience. If you want to be a professor then go to one of the bigger and fancier schools.
 
Which schools are located in those areas (heavily engineer/industrial populated area) ?
 
inter060708 said:
Which schools are located in those areas (heavily engineer/industrial populated area) ?

In the state of Texas, we have:

UT Austin
UT Arlington
UT Dallas
SMU
Rice
University of Houston
 
As a former student of MSOE and finally a graduate of NIU (May 2008) I would recommend NIU hands down and not only because of the cost. But addressing the cost part, have substancial debt that is mostly from my 2 years spent going to MSOE that I will be paying off for years and have friends that graduated from MSOE who aren't making any more than I am nor have they found jobs that are any better than my own. Most everyone I graduated with from NIU did well finding a job right out of college and knowing some of the one's who didn't it definitely wasn't because of the college. I work with people from UIUC, Purdue, Penn State, Iowa State, Bradley, and the list goes on... Your son's education will be what he makes of it and he needs to be sure not to expect to learn more simply because US New and World Report says college X is better; those ratings are not worth looking at in my opinion. I am not downgrading anyone from the schools I mentioned but just saying, they are as good as they are because they wanted to be, not because of the college they went to. If you have any other questions let me know and I would be glad to help.
 

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