Question About Fellowships/Stipends in Grad School

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The discussion revolves around the implications of receiving fellowships and stipends in graduate school, particularly in the context of PhD programs. Participants explore the relationship between external fellowships and internal funding from universities, as well as the financial considerations involved in pursuing a PhD.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses the belief that acceptance into a funded PhD program typically includes a stipend.
  • Another participant mentions that schools often have policies against double-funding, suggesting that receiving an external fellowship may result in forfeiting internal funding.
  • A participant shares their experience that some graduate schools may provide additional funding to students who come in with external fellowships, although they note this might be specific to Canadian institutions.
  • A participant with an NSF Graduate Research Fellowship explains that their university covers the difference in tuition but does not provide a stipend or additional funding, highlighting that the fellowship itself offers a substantial annual amount.
  • One participant emphasizes the advantage of not having to serve as a teaching assistant (TA) when holding an external fellowship, noting the increased workload of graduate studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the policies regarding external fellowships and internal funding, with some suggesting that external funding may lead to reduced internal support while others indicate potential for additional funding. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific practices of different institutions.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various external fellowships and their potential impact on funding arrangements, but the discussion lacks clarity on specific institutional policies and the variability across different universities.

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I am under the impression that if you are accepted to a graduate school (PhD) with funding, you receive a stipend.

I am planning on applying for as many fellowships as I can that are similar to these:
http://scgf.orau.gov/benefits.html
http://www.krellinst.org/csgf/
http://www.nsfgrfp.org/

If I am granted a fellowship similar to these will I still receive a stipend from my school, or will I only get the fellowship? Does it depend on the school?
 
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Generally, schools have rules about not getting double-funding. This means an outside fellowship will mean giving up your internal funding. It also usually means you can't hold two outside fellowships at the same time.
 
Thank you for the speedy reply ParticleGrl. I'm trying to decide whether or not to pursue a PhD, and obviously money is a big factor. It is too bad that you have to practically be in poverty to get a PhD.
 
In my experience, graduate schools tend to "top up" people who come in with external funding. If you come in with a full scholarship they award you a bonus stipend. It's not quite a double whammy, but it's better than nothing. This might be a Canadian thing though.
 
ParticleGrl said:
Generally, schools have rules about not getting double-funding. This means an outside fellowship will mean giving up your internal funding. It also usually means you can't hold two outside fellowships at the same time.

This.

I have an NSF Graduate Research Fellowship. The university and department pay the difference between the school tuition and the amount the NSF pays towards tuition ($10,500/year if I recall), but that's all the department contributes to my education and expenses. I don't get a stipend or other monies from the university or department. However, the fellowship does pay $30K/year, which is more than most TAs or RAs in my department make, so it's not like I'm suffering or anything by not getting departmental money.

The real bonus with outside fellowships is that you don't have to TA. That might not sound like a big deal when you're an undergrad, but when you're an extremely busy grad student trying to stay on top of course work, research, and studying for qualifying exams, not having to TA is very, very nice.
 

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