Question about flow from a nitrogen bottle

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The discussion revolves around estimating the flow duration of a nitrogen bottle with a volume of 2.2 liters at a pressure of 110 Bar, specifically for an experimental setup requiring a flow rate of approximately 1 liter per minute. Participants explore calculations and assumptions related to gas flow and pressure.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks to determine how long the nitrogen bottle will last at a flow rate of 1 liter per minute.
  • Another participant notes that the rated volume is typically at atmospheric pressure and questions whether the bottle is small.
  • A participant suggests that if the flow does not require pressure, the duration could be calculated as volume divided by flow rate, estimating around 2.2 minutes.
  • Another calculation indicates that the compressed gas volume at 1 Bar would be 242 liters, leading to a duration of 242 minutes at a flow rate of 1 liter per minute.
  • One participant challenges the previous calculations, proposing that the compressed volume could imply only a 2.2-minute supply of gas, suggesting a much smaller effective volume.
  • A later reply references a data sheet indicating that at a flow rate of 9 liters per minute, the bottle would last around 30 minutes, leading to a recalculated estimate of 270 minutes at 1 liter per minute.

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Participants express differing views on the calculations and assumptions regarding the effective volume of gas and the duration of flow, indicating that multiple competing views remain without consensus.

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There are unresolved assumptions regarding the pressure requirements at the point of use and the implications of the bottle's rated volume. The calculations depend on interpretations of the compressed gas volume and flow rates.

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I need to know how long a nitrogen bottle will flow for. It is 2.2 Litres 110Bar. I want it to flow at around 1 litre per minute to do an experiment. How long will it last? Sorry if this is a really dumb question.
 
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Craig K said:
I need to know how long a nitrogen bottle will flow for. It is 2.2 Litres 110Bar. I want it to flow at around 1 litre per minute to do an experiment. How long will it last? Sorry if this is a really dumb question.
Usually the rated volume is at atmospheric pressure. Is this a really little bottle?

What pressure do you need at your point of use? If atmospheric I think it's just volume divided by flow rate, or 2.2 min.
 
Do not need pressure so to speak just flow and yes it is a small bottle
 
2.2 litre * 110 Bar = 242 litres at 1 Bar ;
At 1 litre/minute = 242 minutes.
 
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2.2 litre * 110 Bar could also mean only a 2.2 minute supply of gas.
2.2 litre compressed to 110 Bar would have a volume of 2200 / 110 = 20 ml.
You could hold a 20 ml cylinder in your clenched fist.

Please measure and report the dimensions of the cylinder.
 
The data sheet says; "Output @ 9l/pm will flow for around 30mins".
Therefore @ 1 litre/minute it will last for 9 * 30 = 270 minutes.

The bottle looks like 2.2 litres of compressed gas at 110 Bar.
My earlier answer of 242 minutes is close to the truth.
 
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Thanks heaps for you educated answer.
 
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