Question about gravity on the large scale.

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The discussion revolves around the implications of gravity on a large scale, particularly in relation to Olbers' paradox and the distribution of celestial bodies. Participants explore how gravitational forces might behave in an infinite universe with evenly distributed planets and the challenges of understanding gravitational attraction in such a context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that if there are an infinite number of planets with uniform mass distribution, the gravitational pull would theoretically be infinite, but this might cancel out due to symmetry.
  • Another participant suggests that being at rest with respect to the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) results in a uniform gravitational attraction, leading to negligible net attraction in all directions.
  • A question is raised about how one could determine their motion relative to the CMB, with a focus on measuring frequency shifts.
  • Another participant explains that one can measure the temperature of the CMB and look for a dipole moment to ascertain motion relative to it.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of an infinite distribution of celestial bodies and the nature of gravitational attraction in relation to the CMB. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall effects of these concepts on gravity.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the uniformity of mass distribution and the nature of gravitational forces in an infinite universe, which may not be fully addressed. There are also unresolved questions about the methods of measuring motion relative to the CMB.

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I was thinking about olbers paradox and how I could apply it to gravity.
We assume that their are an infinite amount of planets and that they are all about
the same mass or we will just pick a minimum mass. And we assume they are evenly distributed. So the gravitational field falls off as 1/r^2 but the amount of planets grows
as r^2. So If there were an infinite amount of planets or stars or whatever, we would experience an infinite pull, but this would be in all directions so it might cancel.
i guess this is similar to gauss's law. But how would we know where the center is or how would we balance these infinities?
 
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We are all in the center of our observable universe with a finite age - and as space looks nearly the same in all directions (if you are at rest with respect to the CMB), you don't get a significant attraction. There are some attracting things if you have a closer look.
 
How would you know you at rest compared to CMB
Would you tell by measuring the frequency.
 
You measure the temperature (which is related to the total intensity) and look for a dipole moment: If the CMB is hotter in direction X and colder at the opposite side, you are moving towards X (relative to the CMB).
 

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