High School Question about how the nabla interacts with wave functions

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The equation ψ*∇^2 ψ = ∇ψ*⋅∇ψ is not generally true. While it may seem plausible to change the direction of operators, the derivative is classified as an anti-hermitian operator, which introduces a crucial minus sign. In the context of volume integrals where the function vanishes on the boundary, partial integration can be applied, resulting in the equation being modified with a negative sign. This distinction is essential for understanding the interaction between nabla and wave functions. Therefore, the initial assumption about the equality is incorrect.
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Is the following true?
ψ*∇^2 ψ = ∇ψ*⋅∇ψ

It seems like it should be since you can change the direction of operators.
 
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DuckAmuck said:
Is the following true?
ψ*∇^2 ψ = ∇ψ*⋅∇ψ

It seems like it should be since you can change the direction of operators.
No. It is definitely not generally true.

If you have a volume integral and the function vanishes on the boundary, then you can do partial integration to find
$$
\int_V \psi^* \nabla^2 \psi\, dV = - \int_V (\nabla\psi^*)\cdot(\nabla\psi)dV.
$$
Note the minus sign!
 
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DuckAmuck said:
It seems like it should be since you can change the direction of operators.
You can do that for hermitian operators. But the derivative is not a hermitian operator. It is an anti-hermitian operator, due to the minus sign explained in the previous post.
 
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