Question about how to solve a simple matrix (beginner linear algebra).

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The matrix presented in the discussion is singular, leading to either no solution or infinitely many solutions for the system of equations. The user consistently reduces the matrix to a form with two leading variables and two free variables, indicating the presence of infinite solutions. The solution can be expressed in terms of arbitrary parameters, confirming the user's results. Understanding that the number of equations does not guarantee a unique solution is crucial in linear algebra. The discussion highlights the importance of matrix properties in determining solution types.
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Homework Statement



Solve the following (obviously using matrices):

a=[2 1 1 3 8; 3 -1 4 7 7; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 1 -1 2 3 1]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



OK so my linear algebra prof is useless. So I am now on my own (well plus the infinite power of the internet that is!)

So on our assignment, we must solve the following system

a=[2 1 1 3 8; 3 -1 4 7 7; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 1 -1 2 3 1] (where each ; denotes a new line in the matrix, so in total there are 4 rows and 5 columns. Note: This is an augmented matrix.)

So, no matter WHAT I do in row reducing, I always seem to get two rows of complete zeroes on the bottom, which leaves me with only 2 leading variables, and 2 free variables. The only problem is, since I have 4 unknowns and 4 equations, shouldn't it be very possible for me to find what each variable is equal to?

Thanks!

PS: the system I CONTINUOUSLY get is the following:

a=[1 0 1 2 3; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 0 0 0 0 0; 0 0 0 0 0]

Thanks so much in advance!
 
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skyturnred said:

Homework Statement



Solve the following (obviously using matrices):

a=[2 1 1 3 8; 3 -1 4 7 7; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 1 -1 2 3 1]

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



OK so my linear algebra prof is useless. So I am now on my own (well plus the infinite power of the internet that is!)

So on our assignment, we must solve the following system

a=[2 1 1 3 8; 3 -1 4 7 7; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 1 -1 2 3 1] (where each ; denotes a new line in the matrix, so in total there are 4 rows and 5 columns. Note: This is an augmented matrix.)

So, no matter WHAT I do in row reducing, I always seem to get two rows of complete zeroes on the bottom, which leaves me with only 2 leading variables, and 2 free variables. The only problem is, since I have 4 unknowns and 4 equations, shouldn't it be very possible for me to find what each variable is equal to?

Thanks!

PS: the system I CONTINUOUSLY get is the following:

a=[1 0 1 2 3; 0 1 -1 -1 2; 0 0 0 0 0; 0 0 0 0 0]

Thanks so much in advance!

The answer to your question " shouldn't it be very possible for me to find what each variable is equal to?" is NO. Your 4x4 matrix A =[[2 1 1 3],[3 -1 4 7],[0 1 -1 -1],[1 -1 2 3]] is singular, so either the system of equations Ax = b (b = [8 7 2 1]^T) has no solution, or else it has infinitely many. You are getting infinitely many. Just counting the number of equations and the number of variables is not enough; we also need a non-singular matrix on the left.

I think your solution is correct. When I put the system through Maple I get a solution of the form x1 = 2 - u - 2v, x2 = 2 + u + v, x3 = u, x4 = v for arbitrary values u, v.

RGV
 
OK thanks, I appreciate the help.
 
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