Question about imaginary numbers

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the expression √√(-x) for a real number x, specifically exploring its potential values among the options of real and complex numbers.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of x being positive or negative and the resulting expressions involving complex numbers. There are inquiries about taking square roots of complex numbers and the application of Euler's formula. Some participants attempt to derive the square root of i and question the validity of their methods.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing different methods for finding the square root of i and expressing their confusion about the results obtained from various approaches. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the constraints of the problem, including the multiple-choice nature of the question and the requirement to consider both real and complex solutions. There is mention of differing results from various methods, indicating the complexity of the topic.

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Homework Statement



For a real number x, √√(-x) equals :

a) +x b) -x c) complex d) pure imaginary

Homework Equations



√-1 = i

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what i did:
If x is a positive real number then the answer comes out to be x^0.25 * √i (now what is square root of i equal to?)

But if x is a negative real number then the solution would be :
x^0.25

I don't know what to do next, any help would be appreciated.
 
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Have you learned how to take the square roots of complex numbers?
 
do you know about the old [itex]re^{i x} = r Cos[x]+r i Sin[x][/itex]?
if so, I'd use that
 
If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex] then [itex]a^2- b^2+ (2ab)i= 0+ 1(i)[/itex] so you must have [itex]a^2- b^2= 0[/itex] and 2ab= 1. Solve for the values of a and b.
 
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hms.tech said:

Homework Statement



For a real number x, √√(-x) equals :

a) +x b) -x c) complex d) pure imaginary

Homework Equations



√-1 = i

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what i did:
If x is a positive real number then the answer comes out to be x^0.25 * √i (now what is square root of i equal to?)

But if x is a negative real number then the solution would be :
x^0.25
You mean |x|1/4.

I don't know what to do next, any help would be appreciated.
Since this is a multiple-choice question, you should be able to deduce what the correct answer is. I hope you can see that you can rule out the first two choices, so the answer has to be complex or purely imaginary. Can you rule out one or the other?
 
Bread18 said:
Have you learned how to take the square roots of complex numbers?

No, can teach me that ?
It would really help me

HallsofIvy said:
If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex] then [itex]a^2- b^2+ (2ab)i= 0+ 1(i)[/itex] so you must have [itex]a^2- b^2= 0[/tex] and 2ab= 1. Solve for the values of a and b.[/itex]
[itex] <br /> If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex]<br /> ^^how is that TRUE ?[/itex]
 
genericusrnme said:
do you know about the old [itex]re^{i x} = r Cos[x]+r i Sin[x][/itex]?
if so, I'd use that

I know about that identity, but I can't figure out how would ot apply to this situation
 
hms.tech said:
I know about that identity, but I can't figure out how would ot apply to this situation

What is the mod-arg form for i? Now, how can [tex]\sqrt{re^{i\theta}}[/tex] be simplified?
 
Alright, so for x=1
The answer is e^[2∏i]
Or another one, and perhaps i should have opened with this one, is 1


So the answer is probably
Complex



What do you think, am i right ?
 
  • #10
hms.tech said:
No, can teach me that ?
It would really help me



If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex]
^^how is that TRUE ?
You asked for the square root of i, didn't you? If a+ bi is the square root of i, then [itex](a+ bi)^2[/itex] is equal to i.
 
  • #11
Alright, understood.

I have a concern however, why do I get two different answers by
Using the two methods
1.which was stated by hallsofivy
2.the one which uses Taylor series representation to represent
a complex number in e^(ix) form.
 
  • #12
Well, what answers did you get?
 
  • #13
HallsofIvy said:
Well, what answers did you get?

Alright, this one is by the taylor series representation method:

i = e^(i*π/2)
so, √i = e^(i*π/4)

now representing the complex number in the form x+yi :

cos(π/4)+isin(π/4) = √i

so, the answer is 1/√2 + i1/√2

and the answer by the other method :

let i = (a + bi)^2

is exactly the same as before.
My bad on post no. 11

anyways, thanks
 
  • #14
Of course, if x ≤ 0, then [itex]\sqrt{\sqrt{-x}\ }[/itex] is a real number.
 
  • #15
hms.tech said:
Alright, this one is by the taylor series representation method:

i = e^(i*π/2)
so, √i = e^(i*π/4)

now representing the complex number in the form x+yi :

cos(π/4)+isin(π/4) = √i

so, the answer is 1/√2 + i1/√2

and the answer by the other method :

let i = (a + bi)^2
In the complex numbers, every number has two square roots.
[tex]\sqrt{i}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\pm i\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

is exactly the same as before.
My bad on post no. 11

anyways, thanks
 

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