Question about imaginary numbers

In summary, the square root of the square root of a negative real number x can be simplified to a complex number, specifically 1/√2 + i1/√2. The two methods for finding this answer may result in different representations, but both are correct.
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hms.tech
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Homework Statement



For a real number x, √√(-x) equals :

a) +x b) -x c) complex d) pure imaginary

Homework Equations



√-1 = i

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what i did:
If x is a positive real number then the answer comes out to be x^0.25 * √i (now what is square root of i equal to?)

But if x is a negative real number then the solution would be :
x^0.25

I don't know what to do next, any help would be appreciated.
 
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Have you learned how to take the square roots of complex numbers?
 
  • #3
do you know about the old [itex]re^{i x} = r Cos[x]+r i Sin[x][/itex]?
if so, I'd use that
 
  • #4
If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex] then [itex]a^2- b^2+ (2ab)i= 0+ 1(i)[/itex] so you must have [itex]a^2- b^2= 0[/itex] and 2ab= 1. Solve for the values of a and b.
 
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hms.tech said:

Homework Statement



For a real number x, √√(-x) equals :

a) +x b) -x c) complex d) pure imaginary

Homework Equations



√-1 = i

The Attempt at a Solution



Here is what i did:
If x is a positive real number then the answer comes out to be x^0.25 * √i (now what is square root of i equal to?)

But if x is a negative real number then the solution would be :
x^0.25
You mean |x|1/4.

I don't know what to do next, any help would be appreciated.
Since this is a multiple-choice question, you should be able to deduce what the correct answer is. I hope you can see that you can rule out the first two choices, so the answer has to be complex or purely imaginary. Can you rule out one or the other?
 
  • #6
Bread18 said:
Have you learned how to take the square roots of complex numbers?

No, can teach me that ?
It would really help me

HallsofIvy said:
If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex] then [itex]a^2- b^2+ (2ab)i= 0+ 1(i)[/itex] so you must have [itex]a^2- b^2= 0[/tex] and 2ab= 1. Solve for the values of a and b.

If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex]
^^how is that TRUE ?
 
  • #7
genericusrnme said:
do you know about the old [itex]re^{i x} = r Cos[x]+r i Sin[x][/itex]?
if so, I'd use that

I know about that identity, but I can't figure out how would ot apply to this situation
 
  • #8
hms.tech said:
I know about that identity, but I can't figure out how would ot apply to this situation

What is the mod-arg form for i? Now, how can [tex]\sqrt{re^{i\theta}}[/tex] be simplified?
 
  • #9
Alright, so for x=1
The answer is e^[2∏i]
Or another one, and perhaps i should have opened with this one, is 1


So the answer is probably
Complex



What do you think, am i right ?
 
  • #10
hms.tech said:
No, can teach me that ?
It would really help me



If [itex](a+bi)^2= i[/itex]
^^how is that TRUE ?
You asked for the square root of i, didn't you? If a+ bi is the square root of i, then [itex](a+ bi)^2[/itex] is equal to i.
 
  • #11
Alright, understood.

I have a concern however, why do I get two different answers by
Using the two methods
1.which was stated by hallsofivy
2.the one which uses Taylor series representation to represent
a complex number in e^(ix) form.
 
  • #12
Well, what answers did you get?
 
  • #13
HallsofIvy said:
Well, what answers did you get?

Alright, this one is by the taylor series representation method:

i = e^(i*π/2)
so, √i = e^(i*π/4)

now representing the complex number in the form x+yi :

cos(π/4)+isin(π/4) = √i

so, the answer is 1/√2 + i1/√2

and the answer by the other method :

let i = (a + bi)^2

is exactly the same as before.
My bad on post no. 11

anyways, thanks
 
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Of course, if x ≤ 0, then [itex]\sqrt{\sqrt{-x}\ }[/itex] is a real number.
 
  • #15
hms.tech said:
Alright, this one is by the taylor series representation method:

i = e^(i*π/2)
so, √i = e^(i*π/4)

now representing the complex number in the form x+yi :

cos(π/4)+isin(π/4) = √i

so, the answer is 1/√2 + i1/√2

and the answer by the other method :

let i = (a + bi)^2
In the complex numbers, every number has two square roots.
[tex]\sqrt{i}= \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\pm i\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}[/tex]

is exactly the same as before.
My bad on post no. 11

anyways, thanks
 

1. What are imaginary numbers?

Imaginary numbers are numbers that can be expressed in the form of a real number multiplied by the imaginary unit, denoted by the letter "i". They are used to represent the square root of negative numbers, which cannot be expressed as a real number.

2. How are imaginary numbers used?

Imaginary numbers are used in a variety of fields, including mathematics, physics, and engineering. They are used to solve complex equations and are also used in applications such as electrical engineering and signal processing.

3. Can imaginary numbers be graphed?

Yes, imaginary numbers can be graphed on a complex plane, with the real numbers represented on the x-axis and the imaginary numbers represented on the y-axis. This allows for visual representation and manipulation of complex numbers.

4. What is the difference between imaginary and complex numbers?

Complex numbers include both real and imaginary numbers, while imaginary numbers are a subset of complex numbers and only include numbers multiplied by the imaginary unit "i". In other words, imaginary numbers are a type of complex number, but not all complex numbers are imaginary.

5. How are imaginary numbers related to real numbers?

Imaginary numbers and real numbers are both used in mathematics and are related through the complex number system. Real numbers can be thought of as a subset of complex numbers, with imaginary numbers representing the "imaginary" part of a complex number.

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