Question about magnetic field generation by stream of electron

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the generation of magnetic fields by a stream of electrons traveling at near light speed in a vacuum, and the implications for observers moving alongside the electrons. It explores concepts related to electromagnetic fields and reference frames.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether a pencil stream of electrons traveling at near light speed generates a magnetic field, referencing the right hand rule applied to electric currents in wires.
  • Another participant asserts that an observer moving at the same speed and direction as the electrons would not perceive a magnetic field, only an electric field, suggesting that the electromagnetic field is perceived differently based on the observer's frame of reference.
  • A subsequent post seeks clarification on why the electric field remains unaffected in this scenario.
  • A later reply questions whether a stationary observer relative to the flow of electrons in a vacuum would observe a magnetic field.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple viewpoints regarding the perception of magnetic and electric fields by observers in different frames of reference, and it remains unresolved whether a stationary observer would see a magnetic field.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the effects of relative motion on the observation of electromagnetic fields, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of these effects.

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An electric current going through a wire generates a magnetic field as per the right hand rule. Will a pencil stream of electrons traveling in a vacuum at near light speed also generate a magnetic field--??----Also, what would a hypothetical observer traveling at the same speed and direction as the electrons see---regarding a magnetic field---?

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rrosenthal said:
Also, what would a hypothetical observer traveling at the same speed and direction as the electrons see---regarding a magnetic field---??

This is a great question that physics people love to answer! They would not see a magnetic field. They would only see an electric field. Crazy huh? Thats how it works and that is why we often refer to the electromagnetic field as a single entity. How much of the electric part and magnetic part you see depends on how fast you are traveling (your frame of reference).
 
why isn't the electric field affected? And what is the reason for
ModusPwnd said:
This is a great question that physics people love to answer! They would not see a magnetic field. They would only see an electric field. Crazy huh? Thats how it works and that is why we often refer to the electromagnetic field as a single entity. How much of the electric part and magnetic part you see depends on how fast you are traveling (your frame of reference).
 
To ModusPwnd-----thank you for your reply. However is you are stationary to the flow of electrons IN VACUUM, would you then see the magnetic field--?---r rosenthal
 

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