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The discussion centers on the calculation of the cross product between vectors in a coordinate system where the positive y direction is vertically downwards and the positive x direction is to the right. The user seeks clarification on the angle φ between an infinite wire carrying current in the positive y direction and a finite, changing position vector x at point P along the x-axis. The consensus is that φ is 90°, as the angle between the x-axis and y-axis is π/2 radians, simplifying the calculation of the cross product to yx. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding vector orientation and the geometric relationships involved.

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Hello everybody.

If I choose the positive y direction to be vertically downwards, and the positive x direction to be to the right, and take the cross product y cross x, then the direction of the resultant is out of the page (if I draw x and y as lines on paper). The magnitude is yx sin(φ), where φ is the angle between them. I do understand that, but it's been put in a context where I can't find φ. An infinite wire carrying current I in the positive y direction generates a field at P, which is a distance a along the x axis. I want to cross y, which is infinite, with x, which is finite but changing. x is the position vector of point P, relative to the infinite wire. I don't know what to use as the angle between them. Is φ=90°? Is sinφ x/(x2+y2)1/2, by Pythagoras theorem and the geometry of the situation, or should that be a y on the numerator? My textbook explains this poorly, and I think it's still more maths than physics, but I'm sorry if I posted in the wrong place.
Thank's a lot!
 
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Both angle and displacement depend on the point on the conductor (and depending on what you want to calculate, you probably want to use an integral), but if you calculate the cross-product, you'll see that those effects cancel.

What do you want to do?
 
You seem to be using "x" and "y" in two different ways here. "If I choose the positive y direction to be vertically downwards, and the positive x direction to be to the right, and take the cross product y cross x". If you mean "x" to indicate the x-axis and "y" to indicate the y-axis then the angle between x and y is \pi/2 radians.
 

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