Question about miller indicies.

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The discussion revolves around calculating the Miller indices for a shaded plane in relation to specified primitive lattice vectors. Participants are examining how to approach the problem when the lattice vectors do not align with the cube's edges, which is a deviation from their previous experiences.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply a standard method for calculating Miller indices but expresses uncertainty due to the non-standard orientation of the lattice vectors. They question whether redefining the axes to align with the lattice vectors is a valid approach.
  • Another participant suggests finding the components of the new lattice vectors in the regular coordinate system and determining their intercepts with the plane.
  • Subsequent posts raise concerns about the correctness of proposed indices and the requirement for Miller indices to be integers, prompting further exploration of the intercepts in terms of base vectors.

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Participants are navigating the challenge of calculating Miller indices without explicit solutions provided in their study materials. The problem's constraints include the orientation of the lattice vectors and the requirement for the indices to be integers, which are under discussion.

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I've come across a problem in a past paper while studying for exams, the solution is not given so I can only guess what I have to do, any guidance would be appreciated.

Homework Statement


Calculate the Miller indices of the shaded plane with respect to the three primitive lattice vectors shown. In fig 1 and 2.

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The Attempt at a Solution


So figure 1 is quite obviously (1 1 1), I'm not sure how to handle figure 2. The way I was taught to calculate miller indices was pretty formulaic; Define an origin, look for intercepts with the lattice vectors, take the reciprocals and voila. I've never encountered a problem in which the lattice vectors aren't parallel to the edges of the cube and it's thrown me off a little.

Is it as simple as defining another set of axes parallel to the lattice vectors and extrapolating the plane to see where it intercepts those axes?
 
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The Attempt at a Solution


So figure 1 is quite obviously (1 1 1), I'm not sure how to handle figure 2. The way I was taught to calculate miller indices was pretty formulaic; Define an origin, look for intercepts with the lattice vectors, take the reciprocals and voila. I've never encountered a problem in which the lattice vectors aren't parallel to the edges of the cube and it's thrown me off a little.

Is it as simple as defining another set of axes parallel to the lattice vectors and extrapolating the plane to see where it intercepts those axes?

Yes. Find the components of the new lattice vectors in the "regular" coordinate system, and determine their intercept with the given plane, in terms of the given lattice constant. Than take the reciprocals.

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Thanks. So would that make the correct answer (1 sqrt(2) 0)? Or have I completely butchered that. It looks like the plane will never intersect with a'3 making the intercept infinity the reciprocal of which being zero.
 
The sqrt(2) term is wrong. The Miller indices have to be integers. Find the intercept in terms of the base vectors. They need not be unit vectors.

ehild
 

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