Question about MRI Bill: Is $12k Fair Price?

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The discussion revolves around the fairness of a $12,000 bill for an MRI (head with contrast) received from a hospital. Participants explore the pricing of medical imaging procedures, comparing costs in the U.S. to those in other countries, and seek advice on how to address the bill and evaluate its fairness.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express disbelief at the $12,000 charge, citing significantly lower costs for similar procedures elsewhere, such as $600 for a pelvic MRI.
  • Others share personal experiences of receiving high bills for medical imaging, suggesting that such prices may be common in the U.S.
  • There is mention of the potential for hospitals to charge inflated prices, with some participants suggesting that independent imaging centers might offer lower rates.
  • One participant notes that the price for an MRI with contrast at their local hospitals typically ranges from $2,000 to $3,000, questioning the fairness of the $12,000 charge.
  • Concerns are raised about the transparency of hospital billing practices, with suggestions to request itemized bills and to contact insurance companies for clarification on negotiated rates.
  • Some participants discuss the role of insurance in covering costs, indicating that the billed amount may not reflect what the patient ultimately pays after insurance negotiations.
  • There are inquiries about whether the hospital was in-network and if the doctor provided options for outpatient imaging, with implications that referrals may be influenced by financial incentives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the $12,000 bill is fair. There are multiple competing views regarding the pricing of MRIs and the practices of hospitals versus independent imaging centers. The discussion remains unresolved with various opinions and experiences shared.

Contextual Notes

Limitations in understanding arise from the complexity of insurance negotiations, hospital billing practices, and the lack of clarity on what constitutes a fair price for medical imaging. Participants express uncertainty about the implications of insurance coverage on the final bill.

  • #31
Evo said:
I'm also surprised that the doctor did not send you to an outpatient imaging center, or at least give you an option. It's possible the doctor gets a kickback from the hospital for sending them business.

If the doc was connected to the hospital they are discouraged from doing so for the obvious reasons. My MRI was going to cost me $2500 and they booked it for me right away and didn't share options with me. I had to insist I was going to shop around after hearing a medical imaging ad on the radio. They sheeply said ok.
 
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  • #32
humanino said:
The insurance did agree to pay 80% of the $12k so the provider can not be out of network (unless I misunderstand).

Sometimes your insurance company will offer to pay an out of network provider what they would pay an in network provider. It is difficult to negotiate with an insurance company.

If you were indeed sent to an out of network facility, talk to your doctor and ask why. A call from your doctor to the MRI Lab may heavily influence whether or not the lab will negotiate the bill, especially if he refers a lot of patients to them.

My son successfully negotiated $3000 off of his bill. Actually in my sons situation the supervisor of his doctors billing office ended up calling the supervisor of the labs billing office and the lab agreed over the phone to write off the $3000.

Don't talk to the person at the desk in the Lab's billing office. Ask to speak to a supervisor.
 
  • #33
edward said:
Sometimes your insurance company will offer to pay an out of network provider what they would pay an in network provider. It is difficult to negotiate with an insurance company.

If you were indeed sent to an out of network facility, talk to your doctor and ask why. A call from your doctor to the MRI Lab may heavily influence whether or not the lab will negotiate the bill, especially if he refers a lot of patients to them.

My son successfully negotiated $3000 off of his bill. Actually in my sons situation the supervisor of his doctors billing office ended up calling the supervisor of the labs billing office and the lab agreed over the phone to write off the $3000.

Don't talk to the person at the desk in the Lab's billing office. Ask to speak to a supervisor.

That is certainly encouraging. The person at the billing desk was not helpful at all.
 

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