Question about proof from a guy with a highschool education

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The discussion revolves around understanding mathematical proofs, specifically how to present a proof for the statement that if A, B, and C are real numbers such that (A + B) = C, then (A - B) = (C - 2B). Participants explore the structure of proofs, the importance of justifying steps, and the need for axioms and lemmas.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

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  • One participant seeks guidance on how to present a proof and shares an initial attempt.
  • Another participant critiques the use of notation and emphasizes the need to state axioms and previously proven results explicitly.
  • Some participants suggest that the proof should start from accepted assumptions rather than working backwards.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of justifying each step in the proof, particularly the transition from (A + B) = C to A = C - B.
  • Participants express confusion about what axioms to accept and how to present them in the context of the proof.
  • References to field axioms and their importance in justifying mathematical statements are made, with links provided for further reading.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of justifying each step in a proof and the need to reference axioms. However, there is no consensus on the specific axioms to accept or how to present them, leading to ongoing questions and clarifications.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions and implications of axioms, indicating a need for clearer guidance on foundational concepts in mathematical proofs.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals new to mathematical proofs, particularly those seeking to understand the structure and requirements of formal proof presentation in mathematics.

  • #751
No need to bring any calculus or analysis into this CompuChip. The proof is pretty straight-forward without it. Just note that (2+ε)(2-ε) = 4-ε2 ≤ 4 (where -2 ≤ ε ≤ 2) to show that the quadratic is bounded above by 4 on the desired interval.
 
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  • #752
jgens said:
No need to bring any calculus or analysis into this CompuChip. The proof is pretty straight-forward without it. Just note that (2+ε)(2-ε) = 4-ε2 ≤ 4 (where -2 ≤ ε ≤ 2) to show that the quadratic is bounded above by 4 on the desired interval.

I'm not really sure what you're talking about at the end of your post but perhaps this is similar to what I attempted in my proof (see link in my post above)?
 

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