Question about the speed of multi-core HP laptops

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The discussion revolves around the performance characteristics of multi-core HP laptops, specifically focusing on the Intel Core i5-10400H processor and the implications of Turbo Boost technology in relation to parallel processing. Participants explore how core speeds operate under load and the conditions necessary for achieving higher clock speeds without overclocking.

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  • One participant questions whether each core of the i5-10400H can run at 4.6 GHz when all cores are utilized or if that speed is a combined metric.
  • Some participants clarify that Turbo Boost typically activates under light load conditions, suggesting that all cores running at full capacity would not achieve Turbo Boost speeds.
  • Another participant shares their experience with an Intel i7-6500U, noting that while the base speed is 2.5 GHz, the observed speed can exceed this under certain conditions.
  • There is a discussion about the meaning of the reported speed of 2.99 GHz, with some asserting it reflects the speed of each core rather than a cumulative total.
  • Participants debate the conditions under which Turbo Boost operates, with some suggesting it is more effective when fewer cores are active.
  • One participant mentions that Turbo Boost is designed for single-threaded workloads and that heat limits performance when all cores are engaged.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant has ordered a different model, the HP Z2 G4 Tower Workstation, which features a Xeon processor with higher base and boost speeds.

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Participants express differing views on the operation of Turbo Boost and the implications of core speeds under load. There is no consensus on how Turbo Boost interacts with multi-core usage, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact performance characteristics under various conditions.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on assumptions about load conditions and the specific architecture of the processors discussed. The relationship between base speeds, Turbo Boost, and actual performance under different workloads is not fully clarified.

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Question about speed of multi-core processor
Hi,
I'm thinking about buying a fast laptop with 4 cores but I've never been quite clear just how fast they run. Here's the description of the CPU from HP's website:

ZBook Fury 17 G7 with Intel® Core™ i5-10400H vPro processor (2.6 GHz, up to 4.6 GHz with Turbo Boost, 8 MB cache, 4 core) + Intel® UHD Graphics (9UY33AV)

Does this mean that if I set up parallel processing on all cores, each core "can" run at (or near) 4.6 GHz or the combined sum of speeds of all four can reach near 4.6? If it's the later, what would I need to do to get all four running at the turbo speed (without over-clocking)? Would I need to purchase a CPU with a base speed of 4 GHz for this?

Thanks for reading guys.
 
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Each core runs at the quoted speed, but "Turbo Boost" happens at light load - unlikely if all 4 cores are running full out.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Each core runs at the quoted speed, but "Turbo Boost" happens at light load - unlikely if all 4 cores are running full out.

This is an example of my machine:

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6500U CPU @ 2.50GHz, 2592 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
running ParallelTable in Mathematica using 2 cores. Note the base speed is 2.5 GHz but my CPU is showing 2.99 GHz which is the 114% frequency shown on the screen on the right.

Does this mean each core is running at 2.99GHz or the total number of cycles that both cores execute in one second is 2.99 billion?

cpuStats.jpg
 
aheight said:
Does this mean each core is running at 2.99GHz
Vanadium 50 said:
Each core runs at the quoted speed

I'm sorry but I thought I answered this. I'll repeat it, but that usually doesn't help. Each core runs at 2.99 GHz.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Each core runs at the quoted speed, but "Turbo Boost" happens at light load - unlikely if all 4 cores are running full out.

Turbo Boost happens at light loads? I thought it only happened at peak loads?
 
No. If many cores are idle, the chip is cool, so you can run the one core working faster.
 
I see you mean mean light load across cores. What do you mean that turbo boost is unlikely if all cores are running full out though? When I run all cores full out it's still 1ghz above base clock.
 
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What's shown in #3 is a CPU at 66% load running a hair under 20% faster than base. That's a pretty good boost, but the processor is still only doing 79% of what it would do running 4 cores at the base rate.

TurboBoost is intended to speed up single-threaded workloads on multicore processors. Since speed is limited by heat, one can run one core faster if the others are idle. If all cores are running full out, the chip is likely near the base frequency. Because that's what the base frequency means.
 
I ended up ordering an HP Z2 G4 Tower Workstation with:

Intel® Xeon® E-2274G Processor (4.0GHz, up to 4.9GHz w/Boost, 8MB cache, 4 core) + Intel® UHD Graphics P630
 
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