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The discussion revolves around understanding the integration by substitution technique, specifically regarding the transformation of the integral $$\int (3x^2 - 1)^2x~dx$$ and the appearance of the factor of 1/6 in the process. Participants explore the mechanics of substitution and the reasoning behind certain steps in the integration process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how the factor of 1/6 is derived in the context of the substitution.
  • Another participant explains that the substitution involves letting ##u = 3x^2 - 1## and that ##du = 6x~dx##, leading to the need to multiply the integral by 1/6 to maintain equality.
  • A different participant suggests that the multiplication by 6/6 is a mechanical step to facilitate the substitution, while another argues that it is indeed part of the substitution process.
  • Some participants acknowledge their lack of understanding of the basic principles of integration by substitution and express gratitude for the explanations provided.

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Participants generally agree on the mechanics of substitution but disagree on whether the multiplication by 1/6 is a mechanical step or an integral part of the substitution process. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of this step.

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Some participants indicate a lack of familiarity with the integration by substitution technique, which may affect their understanding of the discussion. There is also a mention of personal preferences in handling the substitution process.

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Readers interested in integration techniques, particularly integration by substitution, may find this discussion helpful for understanding common points of confusion and different approaches to the process.

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Not able to understand final refernce to 1/6
This is part of the working from f(3x^2-1)^2xdx; I don't understand from when 6x becomes 1/6
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Martyn Arthur said:
TL;DR Summary: Not able to understand final refernce to 1/6

This is part of the working from f(3x^2-1)^2xdx; I don't understand from when 6x becomes 1/6
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The work shown above is very difficult to understand. Is this the integral you're trying to evaluate?
$$\int (3x^2 - 1)^2x~dx$$
If so, the obvious substitution is to let ##u = 3x^2 - 1##, from which we get ##du = 6x~dx##.

We can rewrite the original integral as ##\frac 1 6\int (3x^2 - 1)^2~6xdx##

Note that we need to multiply xdx by 6 to get the expression for du, so we need to account for that by multiplying the integral by 1/6. IOW, we're multiplying everything by 6/6, or 1, which doesn't change the value of the integral.

Now, make the substitution with u and du, and you have an easy integral.
 
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Sorry it was vague, your deduction is correct.
I am revising this stuff after a while away.
I guess I am just missing something basic but I don't understand how the 1/6 is calculated; apologies in advance for being thick!
 
You understand that if ##u=3x^2-1## then ##du=6x\ dx##, right?

@Mark44 is multiplying the integral by ##\frac 66## (which is obviously 1, so changes nothing) but lets him do this:$$\begin{eqnarray}
&&\int(3x^2-1)^2x\ dx\\
&=&\frac 66\int(3x^2-1)^2x\ dx\\
&=&\frac 16\int(3x^2-1)^2\ 6x\ dx
\end{eqnarray}$$Then he can directly substitute the expressions in my first paragraph into (3) to get a really easy integral of ##u##.

My preference is to rearrange ##du=6x\ dx## to ##\frac 16du=x\ dx## and substitute this and our definition of ##u## into (1). But that's entirely a matter of personal style, and you get the same answer either way.
 
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Martyn Arthur said:
I guess I am just missing something basic but I don't understand how the 1/6 is calculated
Yes, you're missing something very basic. Integration by substitution is one of the simplest techniques for working with integrals. I'm hopeful that between my explanation and the one from @Ibix that you'll get the idea.
 
You guys are very patient; thank you.
Ah I see I think.
It's not part of the actual technical substitution process but a mechanical process to get the integral into a figure that is convenient to work with.
If this is correct my thanks; there is not a need to take time responding further.
Martyn
 
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Martyn Arthur said:
It's not part of the actual technical substitution process but a mechanical process to get the integral into a figure that is convenient to work with.
No, it actually is part of the substitution process. You start with an integral in terms of, say, x and dx. The substitution aims to get an integral in terms of, say, u and du, that is easier to evaluate.
 
that is clear; many thanks
martyn
 

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