Question about this Lesson on Square Roots

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of square roots, specifically focusing on the expression for the square root of 27 and the interpretation of related expressions involving square roots and exponents. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and clarification of notation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the square root of 27 simplifies to 3 times the square root of 3, but expresses confusion about the numerical values obtained from different expressions.
  • Another participant questions the relevance of the expression 3squared times the square root of 3, indicating it does not relate to the simplification of the square root of 27.
  • A different participant clarifies that 3squared times the square root of 3 equals the square root of 243, while 3 times the square root of 3 equals the square root of 27, suggesting they are discussing different quantities.
  • Another participant explains that if the intention is to square 3 times the square root of 3, the correct approach is to square the entire expression, leading to the result of 27.
  • A later reply provides a breakdown of LaTeX notation used in the discussion, illustrating how different expressions are rendered in LaTeX format.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus, as there are differing interpretations of the expressions and their relationships to the square root of 27. Multiple competing views remain regarding the correct understanding of the mathematical expressions involved.

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There are limitations in the discussion regarding the clarity of notation and the assumptions made about the expressions being compared. The mathematical steps leading to the interpretations are not fully resolved.

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In a lesson on square roots this came up (Root) 27 simplifies too 3(root)3 ok. when I work that out it's
= 5.196... or if I say 3squard (root)3 this works out to 15.588.... What am I missing?
 
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Simon Peach said:
if I say 3squard (root)3
Why would you say that? It (##3^2\sqrt 3##) has nothing to do with ##\sqrt {27}=3\sqrt 3=5.196...##.
 
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##3^2\sqrt 3= \sqrt{9^2 \cdot 3} = \sqrt{243}##
##3\sqrt3 = \sqrt{9 \cdot 3} = \sqrt{27}##
It should be obvious that we're talking about different numbers.
 
Simon Peach said:
if I say 3squard (root)3
If you're trying to square ##3 \sqrt{3}## to see if it comes out to 27, you need to square everything: you get ##3^2 \times 3 = 9 \times 3 = 27##.
 
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Simon Peach said:
In a lesson on square roots this came up (Root) 27 simplifies too 3(root)3 ok. when I work that out it's
= 5.196... or if I say 3squard (root)3 this works out to 15.588.... What am I missing?
@Simon Peach, you're a little older than I am, but not by very much. Here's a quick lesson on some of the features of LaTeX that are supported on this site:

Your notation.........Rendered LaTeX...............Raw LaTeX
(Root) 27 .........................##\sqrt{27}##..............................##\sqrt{27}##
3(root)3 ...........................##3\sqrt 3##..............................##3\sqrt 3##
3squard (root)3..............##3^2\sqrt 3##...........................##3^2\sqrt 3##

The link in the lower left corner of the input pane goes to our LaTeX tutorial.
 

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