Question about this technique for solving simultaneous equations

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The discussion revolves around solving simultaneous equations, particularly focusing on the technique of substituting variables and the implications of using a specific form for one of the variables. Participants explore the appropriateness of letting \( y = mx \) in problems with equal degrees, such as second or third degree equations.

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  • Participants discuss the substitution of variables, with one suggesting the use of \( m = \frac{y}{x} \) and another proposing \( z = \frac{y}{x} \) for clarity. There is also a focus on whether the approach of letting \( y = mx \) is universally applicable for equations of the same degree.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying their understanding of the highlighted parts of the original post and questioning the general applicability of the substitution method. There is no explicit consensus, but various interpretations and clarifications are being explored.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the highlighted text in the original post, indicating a potential lack of clarity in communication. The discussion also touches on the importance of distinguishing between variables and constants in the context of the problem.

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I was going through this...

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The steps are quite clear; although i do not know whether it is a general approach to let ##y=mx## in such kind of problems when the degree are the same...second degree, third degree and so on.

My approach to this problem was straightforward;

##y=\dfrac{8-2x^2}{3x}##

thus on substitution to first equation, we shall have,
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##9x^4+96x^2-24x^4+64-32x^2+4x^4-117x^2=0##

##-11x^4-53x^2+64=0##

Let

##m=x^2##

then it follows that,

##11m^2+53m-64=0##

##m=1, ⇒ x=±1##

The values of ##y## would be found by substituting ##x=±1## into ##y=\dfrac{8-2x^2}{3x}##

cheers.

My interest is on the highlighted part.
 
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As is clear from the working, ##m## is a variable, not a constant of proportionality. There was a thread yesterday where a similar approach caused this confusion. In general, as long as ##x \ne 0##, you can always set ##m = \frac y x##. Personally, I would use ##z = \frac y x##, and then it's clearer what's happening.
 
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chwala said:
My interest is on the highlighted part.
I don't see any highlighted part.
 
Mark44 said:
I don't see any highlighted part.
I assume it is the passage in lilac: "although i do not know whether it is a general approach to let in such kind of problems when the degree are the same...second degree, third degree and so on."
 
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haruspex said:
I assume it is the passage in lilac: "although i do not know whether it is a general approach to let in such kind of problems when the degree are the same...second degree, third degree and so on."
You're right. I thought he meant that something was highlighted in the image from the book. Also, that lilac doesn't really stand out very distinctly.
 

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