Question on finding the volume of vapor and the volume of liquid

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the volume of evaporated water and comparing it to the volume of liquid water, set in the context of a scenario where 1.0 kg of water is perspired on a hot day. The subject area includes thermodynamics and properties of water in different phases.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of vapor pressure and its role in determining the volume of vapor. Some express uncertainty about how to start the problem, while others suggest using the ideal gas law and consider the conditions under which the calculations are made.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants sharing insights about the necessary parameters for solving the problem, such as pressure and temperature. Some have attempted calculations, while others have provided hints and guidance without reaching a consensus on the final approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that vapor pressure was not covered in class, and there are references to specific values from textbooks, indicating a potential gap in information that may affect the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement



On a hot 35 degrees celsius day you perspire 1.0 kg of water during your workout.
A) what volume is occupied by the evaporated water?
B) By what factor is this larger than the volume occupied by the liquid water?

Homework Equations



PV=nRT
PV=NKbT
density of water is 1000 kg/m3= M/V
n=Mass/ Molar mass


3. The Attempt at a Solution [/b

I really have no idea on how to start this problem. I did solve for n=M/Mmol=1000g/18.02g/mol= 55.49 moles but i don't even know if I need it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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I just need a hint to get going in the right direction. I'm thinking that this problem may have something to do with the phase diagram of water?
 
Welcome to PF.

What's missing here is the pressure of water. Has your class or book discussed the concept of vapor pressure ? There might be a table of water's vapor pressure in your book, for different temperatures. That information is needed to solve this.
 
Yeah we didn't talk at all about vapor pressure and the only thing that it says in my book is that we can ignore vapor pressure if we keep the tempature low. I did find that the vapor pressure of water is 2.4 kPa and 20 degrees celsius.
 
I tried using the density of vapor 0.0022(since i knew the mass of 1kg) and from that find the volume of 454.5m3 but that wasn't right
 
You had pV=nRT and you had both n and T, so all you need is p. Imagine trapping all of the water vapor in a box that's free to expand or contract whenever it needs to. What would the pressure of the water vapor be?
 
would be the same as the atmospheric pressure of 101300 Pa?
 
Yeah.
 
so then...
P= 101300 Pa
n= 1000/18.02=55.49moles
T= 308 k
R=8.31
Solve for V and I get 1.402 m3
 
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awesome thank you so much. I was able to figure out part b. Thank you! :)
 

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