Question on Rotational Dynamics of Yoyo

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The discussion revolves around the rotational dynamics of a yoyo, specifically examining the relationship between the center of mass velocity and angular velocity in the context of rolling without slipping. The original poster questions the application of established principles from previous examples to the yoyo scenario.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the equation Vcm = Rw in relation to the yoyo's motion, questioning whether the movement of the string affects this relationship. They explore the implications of tension and its effect on the center of mass velocity.

Discussion Status

Participants are engaged in clarifying the assumptions behind the original poster's reasoning. There is acknowledgment of differing interpretations regarding the motion of the string and its impact on the yoyo's dynamics.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a fixed point for the string, which contrasts with the original poster's assumption of the string being pulled up. The discussion also touches on the implications of tension forces in relation to the center of mass velocity.

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It's a textbook example that has a solution.
At the middle right hand side of the picture, they say "From Eq... Vcm = Rw"
(Where 'cm' is centre of mass)
I don't understand why this is true.

Previously in the textbook they talked about rolling without slipping, where they mentioned a rubber tire rolling on cement. They reasoned that the velocity of the point of contact is zero relative to the road.
I.E Vcontact_point-rel-road = 0
Then Vcm-rel-road = Vcm-rel-contact_point + Vcontact_point-rel-road = Vcm-rel-contact_point = R * w
(Where w is angular speed and R is radius)
I understand all of that.

But I question the soundness of applying that to the example in question, because the yoyo string would be analogous to the road, but the road didn't move and the string does. And since the string is being pulled up, wouldn't Vcm be not as simple as just R*w? Wouldn't I have to account for the speed of the string?

And furthermore, looking at (10.14) in the picture, if my T force is large enough to equal Mg, would Vcm not just equal zero? And looking at (10.15), such a large T force would cause a large angular velocity.
So then Vcm =/= R*w

Is the something wrong with my reasoning?
 

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fchen720 said:
the string is being pulled up
I don't see anything to suggest that. Looks like the top of the string is being held fixed.
 
I'm face palming right now... Thank you so much.
 
fchen720 said:
I'm face palming right now... Thank you so much.
ok!
 

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