Question Regarding Impulse and momentum

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The discussion centers on the effectiveness of rubber versus lead bullets for knocking down a bear, focusing on the concepts of impulse and momentum. Participants debate the implications of momentum conservation and the differences in behavior between the two materials upon impact. It is established that while both bullets have the same initial momentum, the lead bullet will stop upon hitting a wall, resulting in a change in momentum, while the rubber bullet will bounce back, leading to a different change in momentum. The conversation highlights that knocking down the bear relates more to the change in momentum rather than just the force or energy involved. Ultimately, understanding the dynamics of momentum and impulse is crucial for determining which bullet would be more effective in this scenario.
  • #31
hmm :redface:

have you done conservation of momentum? :smile:

if so, what is the equation for conservation of momentum for rubber bouncing off a wall on ice (ie, no foundations, so the wall can slide along the ice, but the wall is initially stationary)?
 
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kashan123999 said:
Lead... Change in momentum= final - intial = 0-mv=-mv i guess? opposite to the direction of original propagation...

Rubber bullet... mu-mv = m(u-v) ??
I was trying hard not to confuse you on this. You can think in terms of speeds or in terms of velocities. Because all the movement is in the same straight line, but in opposite directions, the difference is how the sign is handled. In my previous post I defined u as a speed, but you seem to be using velocities, so I'll stick with that.
If u and v are velocities measured in the same direction then the momenta are mu and mv, and the change in momentum is mu-mv, as you wrote. But note that u will be negative. So if you compare the magnitude of -mv (change in momentum for the lead) with that of m(u-v) (change in momentum for the rubber), which is larger?
 
  • #33
I don't know :( i am confused as hell,Tommorow is my physics exam,please tell me the answer,i can develop critical skills later on :D I am a pakistani so that really makes me a rote learner and far far behind the world sorry :D so,what is the detailed answer?
 
  • #34
have you done conservation of momentum?
 
  • #35
tiny-tim said:
have you done conservation of momentum?

yep,initial momentum = final :@ change in momentum = 0
 
  • #36
kashan123999 said:
yep,initial momentum = final

ok, so try applying total initial momentum = total final momentum to rubber bouncing off a wall on ice (ie, no foundations, so the wall can slide along the ice, but the wall is initially stationary)
 

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