Question Regarding System of Equations

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The discussion revolves around a precalculus problem involving two rectangular fields enclosed by fencing. Both fields have the same area, but one is alongside a river and has fencing on only three sides, while the other is fully enclosed. Participants are tasked with creating a system of quadratic equations to model the areas of these fields.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to model the first field using perimeter and area equations, leading to a quadratic equation. They then model the second field similarly but find discrepancies in the equations. Some participants question the correctness of the original poster's equations and suggest that the variables used for the two fields may be causing confusion.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of distinct variables for the two fields, but no consensus has been reached on the validity of the original equations or the problem itself.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the area of the second field should be greater than or equal to that of the first, raising questions about the correctness of the provided solutions. There is also mention of illogical solutions obtained from the equations, leading to speculation about the problem's validity.

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Hey Pf, I'm working on precalculus review and I have found myself stumped by a question.

Homework Statement



A rectangular field is enclosed by 600m of fencing. A second rectangular field, which is alongside a river, has the same area and is also enclosed by 600m of fencing. However, this second field has fencing on only three sides because there is no need for fencing along the riverbank. Create a system of quadratic equations to model the problem. (Answer: A = -x2+300x, A = -2x2+60x)

Homework Equations



ax2+bx+c

The Attempt at a Solution



I began by modeling the first field:
P = 2x+2y
600 = 2x+2y
300 = x+y
y = -x+300

A = xy
A = x(-x+300)
A = -x2+300x

Afterwards I modeled the second field:
600 = 2x+y
y = -2x+600

A = xy
A = x(-2x+600)
A = -2x2+600x

As you can see, the equations are different. I cannot see where I went wrong. Could someone please correct my folly? :)
 
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I can't see where you wrong, are you sure you read the answer right?
 
Positive. It may be of use to note when I entered the equations I created into my calculator it yielded solutions of (0,0) and (0,300). Seeing as those solutions are illogical, that means it's either a bad question, or I made an error somewhere along the way.

EDIT: I just used the same method of checking for the "correct" solution; it yielded values of (-240,-129600) and (0,0). Perhaps it's just a bad question...
 
Well the area of the second one should be [itex]\geq[/itex] the first one. And if the answers are right, that doesn't always hold true.
 
I'll skip it and move on I suppose. :)
 
Yeah that might be a good idea.
 
trulyfalse said:
Hey Pf, I'm working on precalculus review and I have found myself stumped by a question.

Homework Statement



A rectangular field is enclosed by 600m of fencing. A second rectangular field, which is alongside a river, has the same area and is also enclosed by 600m of fencing. However, this second field has fencing on only three sides because there is no need for fencing along the riverbank. Create a system of quadratic equations to model the problem. (Answer: A = -x2+300x, A = -2x2+60x)

Homework Equations



ax2+bx+c

The Attempt at a Solution



I began by modeling the first field:
P = 2x+2y
600 = 2x+2y
300 = x+y
y = -x+300

A = xy
A = x(-x+300)
A = -x2+300x

Afterwards I modeled the second field:
600 = 2x+y
y = -2x+600

A = xy
A = x(-2x+600)
A = -2x2+600x

As you can see, the equations are different. I cannot see where I went wrong. Could someone please correct my folly? :)

You can't use the same variables for the two fields.
Let x1 and y1 be the width and length of the first field (the one with fences along all four sides).
Let x2 and y2 be the width and length of the second field (the one with the river as one boundary).

For the first field, A = x1*y1 = x1(300 - x1)
For the second field, A = x2*y2 = x2(600 - 2x2)
 

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