Question regarding the transfer of forces through a spring

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanics of force transfer through springs in a system where a block is supported by two springs. Participants explore how forces are distributed and transformed at the interface between the springs and the ground, particularly focusing on the implications for a bolt analysis related to the springs' support.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how forces are transformed through the springs and seeks clarity on the mechanics involved.
  • Several participants suggest that visual aids, such as drawings or free body diagrams, could help clarify the situation.
  • Another participant proposes that if the system is stationary, the spring exerts the same force on the ground as the force applied to its top, implying a direct transfer of force.
  • A participant questions whether some of the force is stored as potential energy in the spring or if it is fully transferred to the ground.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that in a stationary system, the spring transmits the force applied to it. However, there is uncertainty regarding the specifics of how force is transferred at the interface with the ground and whether potential energy plays a role.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully resolved the question of how force is stored or transferred at the point where the spring contacts the ground, leaving some assumptions and conditions unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in mechanics, particularly those studying force distribution in spring systems or preparing for related analyses in engineering contexts.

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Maybe it has just been a long day but I cannot seem to visualize what is happening in this situation. The problem consists of a block sitting on two springs so that the springs are not completely compressed. (the springs are strong enough to support the box's weight) What I can't figure out is what is happening under the springs. How is the force transformed? Is the force even transformed? I am completely lost as to what is going on. I need to do a bolt analysis on the bolts holding the springs down and I don't know where to start. Please help...
 
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Picture! :) Draw a picture and post it if possible.
 
Draw a free body diagram, and post it. A picture is worth 1000 words (or more).
 
Here is the drawing.
 

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So, what's the problem? Do you know how to do a force/moment analysis on the body? It seems to me the answer is obvious- each spring takes 1/6 the weight...
 
I guess I was vague with my question. I was more focused on how each of the 1/6 of the weight on each spring gets transferred through the spring. Meaning, I am not certain what is happening right where the spring touches the ground in my sketch. Does the spring also exert the same 1/6 onto the ground or does some of the force get stored in the spring as potential energy? I probably should have left out the force/moment analysis part of my question and left it as only a spring question for clarity. I'll know for next time
 

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If the system is stationary and balanced, the spring imparts the same force on the base that is applied to its top. If the forces were unequal, the spring would be moving or deflecting.
 
Yeah that is what I was thinking but it seemed wrong so I thought I would ask just in case. Thank you for sticking with me till the end. I appreciate it
 

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