Question with Three Thin Lenses Calculating for Final Image Distance

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves three thin lenses, each with a focal length of 40.0 cm, arranged on a common axis with specific separations. The objective is to determine the position of the final image formed by these lenses when a small object is placed 80.0 cm to the left of the first lens.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the lens formula to find the image distance after the first lens but encounters difficulty in progressing to the subsequent lenses. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the type of lenses and the sign conventions used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of lens types and sign conventions, with some guidance offered on assuming the lenses are converging based on the provided focal length. The discussion reflects a mix of interpretations regarding how to proceed with the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the type of lenses being used, as the problem does not explicitly state whether they are converging or diverging. This leads to considerations of multiple cases based on lens types.

Temp0
Messages
79
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


Three thin lenses, each with a focal length of 40.0 cm, are aligned on a common axis; adjacent lenses are separated by 52.0 cm.

Find the position of the image of a small object on the axis, 80.0 cm to the left of the first lens.

Homework Equations



1/s + 1/s' = 1/f

The Attempt at a Solution


So I started this question out with doing:
1/80 + 1/s' = 1/40
solving for s' = 80.
However, my image ends up being between lens 2 and lens 3, 28 cm from lens 2 and 24 cm from lens 3. Now I'm stuck because I don't know what to do next. Any suggestions would be appreciated, thank you in advance.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Familiarize yourself with the sign convention used in lens calculations.
 
Hmm, but how do I know if it's a converging or diverging lens? I know that for a converging lens, focal length is positive and for a diverging one the focal length is negative. I assumed that the object is real so the distance s would be positive. However, the question doesn't state what type of lens I'm working with.
 
You're going to need to assume the type of lens you have here, otherwise you're going to have to consider 8 possible cases. Since the problem says the focal length is 40 cm and not -40 cm, I think you're safe going with converging lenses.

The sign conventions for the object and image only have to do with their positions relative to the lens. Don't worry about whether they're real or virtual.
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
8
Views
6K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
4K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K