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The discussion revolves around the convergence of certain infinite series involving prime numbers. Participants explore the implications of convergence tests, the use of the Prime Product, and the relationship between different series. The conversation touches on mathematical proofs related to conjectures in number theory.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant claims to have found several infinite sums involving odd primes that appear to converge, suggesting that they can confirm this using Euler's Prime Product.
  • Another participant questions the clarity of the original poster's inquiry, stating that more mathematical detail is needed to provide feedback.
  • A later post introduces the idea that the series may sum to a number whose convergence is undecidable, and claims to have derived proofs for several conjectures based on these series.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the lack of detailed mathematical exposition in the initial posts, indicating that the questions posed are too vague to address effectively.
  • One participant mentions drafting proofs for Andrica's Conjecture, Legendre's Conjecture, and Goldbach's Conjecture, asserting that these series are new and significant.
  • Another participant apologizes for previous curt responses and shares a link to a new thread in the Number Theory forum for further discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus, with some expressing skepticism about the claims made regarding convergence and the proofs of conjectures. Multiple competing views remain regarding the validity and clarity of the original inquiry.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the need for more mathematical detail to evaluate the claims made about convergence and the series. There are indications of unresolved mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the nature of the series discussed.

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Readers interested in number theory, convergence testing, and mathematical proofs related to prime numbers may find this discussion relevant.

Rudy Toody
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I have found an interesting infinite sum that appears to converge to a number.

In fact, I have created four of these using slightly different rules.

Since, all of the odd primes are involved in each series, I know that the series are infinite. I will confirm this by using Euler's Prime Product in place of the sum at each step. I should get Pi^2 / 6.

Now, I have one more series that is nearly identical to one of the above, but it drops an occasional prime (about one prime for every 8 steps.) The two series are in lock-step for 7 out of 8 steps.

That series also seems to converge to a number.

Question1: If I can prove convergence of the series that contains all of the primes, and if I can prove that when using the ratio test that they converge, would that indicate that the second series is also infinite? I know it would mean that it is convergent.

Question2: Can I use the Prime Product as one (or both) elements of the ratio test, or does that only work for sums?
 
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This is a math forum. if you want some feedback on your ideas, you will have to write down some math.

There are some excellent mathematicians here, but not many experts at ESP.
 
AlephZero said:
This is a math forum. if you want some feedback on your ideas, you will have to write down some math.
Think of it as a story problem.

Edit: I think this should be in the Number Theory forum. Perhaps, a moderator could move it.
 
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I have found that these series sum to a numbers whose convergence/divergence is undecidable.

Using this information and a few more rules, I have created proofs of Andrica's Conjecture, Legendre's Conjecture, and using a slightly different method, Goldbach's Conjecture.

It seems that the Twin Primes and Quadruplet Primes might also be targets for this series.

I would not have found these calculations had I not been ignored by this forum. Thanks for the tough-love!

I am drafting the proofs now and will post again after I submit them to a journal.
 
So far you have made three posts and said you have some series and want to know if it converges. That is a lot like saying "I have this problem, and want to know the answer"! There simply isn't enough information to tell us what your question reall is!
 
HallsofIvy said:
So far you have made three posts and said you have some series and want to know if it converges. That is a lot like saying "I have this problem, and want to know the answer"! There simply isn't enough information to tell us what your question reall is!

In my previous post, I stated that I had found the answer. I am in the process of drafting the proofs.

It turns out that these series are entirely new and magical.

Bounded, Convergent Prime Series Abstract:
1) We create a new type of infinite prime series using bounded steps to force convergence. 2) Using one of these series, we show a proof of Andrica's Conjecture. 3) Using that proof, we show a proof of Legendre's Conjecture. 4) Using that same series in a slightly different manner, we show a proof of Goldbach's Conjecture. 5) Using another series and the series from 4, we show a proof of Goldbach's Weak Conjecture.
 
First, I want to apologize about my curtness earlier. I did not have any math at that time to show. Now I do. I have started a thread on the Number Theory forum to discuss this series.

Edit: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=485665"

http://math.rudytoody.us/BisectedPronicPrimeSeries.pdf" It was rejected for obvious reasons. You can use it to get a sneak-peek at the proofs I will present on the other thread to see how magical this Semi-Pronic series can be.

If anyone has suggestions, feel free to jump onto that thread.

If you come up with your own proof, publish it! (with a citation to give me some credit.)

Thanks.
 
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