Questions about the lifespan of the Earth

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The discussion revolves around the lifespan of the Earth in relation to the Sun's lifecycle, exploring concepts of extinction, climate change, and the potential for future life forms. Participants consider various scenarios regarding the future of life on Earth and the implications of environmental changes.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that while the Sun is only midway through its life, the Earth may face extinction of complex life much sooner due to increasing luminosity and temperature.
  • One participant expresses a view that global warming and other crises may lead to human extinction but not the end of the Earth itself.
  • Another participant proposes a scenario where life could regenerate after mass extinction events, highlighting the potential for new civilizations to emerge over billions of years.
  • It is noted that the Sun's increasing brightness could render Earth uninhabitable for complex life within about 500 million years, although extremophiles might survive.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of life evolving again under conditions that may arise as the Earth becomes less habitable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the timeline and implications of Earth's habitability, with some agreeing on the inevitability of complex life extinction due to solar changes, while others emphasize the potential for future life forms and regeneration cycles. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific outcomes and timelines.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge uncertainties regarding the exact timeline of solar changes and their impact on life, as well as the assumptions underlying their scenarios about future civilizations and the resilience of extremophiles.

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I remember a teacher said that the Sun is approx. only in its mid way of life and so there are still billions of years to go. I am not worried.

From wild guess, I am pretty sure our Earth will be finished well earlier before that of the Sun.

We are talking about global warming, water levels, food crisis ,wars and even the crush of outer space rocks etc.. .but all these things would not lead the death of the Earth right? And in the worst case scenario, it will only lead to extinction of human? Am I correct?
 
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Yep. No reason to worry at all. Scenarios are pretty well worked out and yes, Earth will last longer than life on it. Keep sunglasses within reach for use in a few billion years :smile:
 
What I find so cool about 'time' and especially the tiny amount we are actually able to experience is that all life on Earth could go extinct tomorrow and in a few lousy billion years a whole new civilization could have evolved and be bustling around all busy and into themselves thinking how cool they were that here they were the "crown of civilization" outliving even their own evolutionary epochs and eras (There is a difference). And if the bacteria somehow escaped the extinction event tomorrow, and each time, we could go through 3 or 4 of these regeneration cycles. Imagine, this could even include the hundreds of millions of years of dinosaur rule, etc, etc. We probably wouldn't even notice that the universe was 'this' big instead of 'that' big because we wouldn't really have anything much to compare it too.
And, anyone have anything to add or delete from this scenario please do so. That's what is so great about science, ain't it?
 
kenny1999 said:
I remember a teacher said that the Sun is approx. only in its mid way of life and so there are still billions of years to go. I am not worried.

From wild guess, I am pretty sure our Earth will be finished well earlier before that of the Sun.

We are talking about global warming, water levels, food crisis ,wars and even the crush of outer space rocks etc.. .but all these things would not lead the death of the Earth right? And in the worst case scenario, it will only lead to extinction of human? Am I correct?
Your "wild guess" is correct. As the sun ages it gets brighter (luminosity increases). As the sun gets brighter, it also gets hotter. In another 500 million years the sun will be 10% more luminous than it is currently. That is sufficient to kill off all complex life on the planet and boil off the oceans. The only life that might exist after that point would be extremophiles. So not only is our sun approximately midway through its lifespan, but complex life on this planet (which began ≈540 million years ago) is also approximately midway through its existence. Assuming something else does not terminate all life before then.
 
Yeah, the mice could call it a day and quit their experiment !
 
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What I find so cool about 'time' and especially the tiny amount we are actually able to experience is that all life on Earth could go extinct tomorrow and in a few lousy billion years a whole new civilization could have evolved and be bustling around all busy and into themselves thinking how cool they were that here they were the "crown of civilization" outliving even their own evolutionary epochs and eras (There is a difference). And if the bacteria somehow escaped the extinction event tomorrow, and each time, we could go through 3 or 4 of these regeneration cycles. Imagine, this could even include the hundreds of millions of years of dinosaur rule, etc, etc. We probably wouldn't even notice that the universe was 'this' big instead of 'that' big because we wouldn't really have anything much to compare it too.
And, anyone have anything to add or delete from this scenario please do so. That's what is so great about science, ain't it?
There is not enough time for that. Life took about 4 billion years until humans formed, but it will get too hot to support complex life within about a billion years. The Earth will be around much longer, but without some sort of global engineering it won't be very habitable any more.
 

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