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The discussion revolves around a civil engineering homework problem involving the analysis of a slab in a hospital complex. Participants are addressing the calculation of internal bending moments and shear forces, as well as determining nominal cover for concrete columns under specified conditions. The scope includes technical reasoning and clarification of concepts related to structural engineering.

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Main Points Raised

  • Post 1 presents a homework statement with specific calculations needed for bending moments and shear forces, along with details about concrete specifications.
  • Post 2 requests clarification on the sketch provided in Post 1, indicating that it lacks sufficient explanation.
  • Post 3 refers to an attachment that presumably contains the drawing for question 1, suggesting that visual aids are necessary for understanding.
  • Post 4 critiques the original post for potential errors, such as unit inconsistencies and assumptions about the slab's support conditions. It questions the transition from Qk to qk and emphasizes the need for clearer explanations and calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the clarity and correctness of the initial problem statement and calculations. There is no consensus on the interpretation of the figures or the assumptions made about the slab's support conditions.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include unclear assumptions about the slab's support type, potential errors in unit representation, and the need for additional explanations or sketches to clarify the calculations presented.

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This discussion may be useful for civil engineering students or professionals seeking to understand the complexities involved in structural analysis and the importance of clear communication in technical problems.

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Homework Statement



1) The slab shown forms a walkway between buildings in a new hospital complex (Please consider it as the sketch below).

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Determine the values of:
a) the maximum applied internal bending moment
b) the maximum value of the applied shear force V

Characteristic permanent actions:
c) allow for the self weight of the deck slab
d) allow for 50mm screed
e) finishes 1 kN/m^2 - no partitions

Question 2
a) An internal 450mm square column is to be provided with 25mm diameter vertical bars and 10mm diameter links, maximum size of aggregate is 40mm. Exposure is class XC1, concrete strength is C30/37 and required fire resistance is 3hours. Assuming a load reduction factor of 0.7, what is the nominal cover (mm)?
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b) The ground floor slab of an office development is cast on blinding and has a concrete strength class of C32/40. It is exposed to moderate humidity and chlorides. Maximum aggregate size is 20mm and bar size is 16mm. What is the recommended nominal cover? (there is no need to check fire resistance for this question b).



The attempt at a solution

Please refer to my answers in the attached .pdf

I will appreciate your help for this of my first post at PF.
Thank you.
 

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I'm afraid your sketch of the slab needs some explanation.
 
please refers to the attachment shows the drawing for question 1
 

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This is apparently based on Eurocodes. There is a general lack of explanation of your figures and some obvious errors, such as N/m2 should be kN/m2? How do you get from Qk to qk? As most of us don't have EC2 to hand, you need to explain (for example) the line for Gk =0.36(78). What it needs is a small sketch or calculation that follows from the numbers given. It is good that you have made your references, but for Physics forum help, you need to give thoughtful explanation of your work, and identify where you want help. The bending moment is a bit mysterious, because you appear to have assumed that there is a cantilever, when a simply supported slab is more likely. Your incorrect units for both bending moment and shear force suggest either that you haven't understood the concepts of M and V, or (possibly) that you are working 'per m width of slab', which is never stated.
 

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