Quick question about Schwarz's theorem

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In summary, the conversation discusses the continuity of a function f(x,y) with two variables in a point (a,b). The speaker argues that if the mixed partials of f are continuous in (a,b), then f is twice differentiable and therefore globally Lipschitz, implying continuity. However, another person points out that the existence or continuity of partial derivatives is not as strong as the existence of a derivative in one dimension. The example given shows that a function can have continuous mixed partials but still be discontinuous at (a,b). The conversation concludes by mentioning that there is an analogy of differentiability for functions with multiple variables.
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Homework Statement



f(x,y) is a two variables function for which the hypothesis of Schwarz's theorem hold in a point (a,b).
is f continuous in (a,b)?

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I think it is, because being the two mixed partials continuous in (a,b) the function is twice differentiable, and therefore globally Lipschitz, which implies continuity.
Am I right?
 
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Are you referring to the Schwarz' theorem that says if ##f_{xy}## and ##f_{yx}## are both continuous at point (a,b) there is a neighborhood U of (a,b,) where## f, f_x, f_y,f_{xy}, f_{yx} ## all exist and ##f_{xy} = f_{yx}## at (a,b)?

We cannot infer from this that f is continuous at (a,b). That seems unintuitive, because if you said the same for a function of a single variable, of course it would be continuous.

The problem is that existence or continuity of the partial derivatives is nowhere near as strong as existence of a derivative of a function of 1 variable. The partials only tell you that there is continuity along two different lines coming into (a,b). The function could fail to be continuous at (a,b) because it has a discontinuity there coming in along some other path.

Remember that continuity at (a,b) means that for any ##\epsilon## > 0 there exists some neighborhood U of (a,b) where (x,y) ##\in## U ##\Rightarrow## |f(x,y)-f(a,b)| < ##\epsilon##.

Okay, an example. Let (a,b) = (0,0). Let f(x,y) = x when x = 0 and y when y = 0, but f(x,y) = 2x +2y + 1 if x and y are not zero. Then ##f_x##(0) = ##f_y##(0) = 1 and ##f_{xy}(0)## = ##f_{yx}(0) = 0.## But as per the definition above, f is not continuous at 0.

I believe part of the point of this problem is precisely to show that partial derivatives are not analogous to the derivative in one dimension. There is in fact an analogy in multiple dimensions -- you can look up what "differentiability" means for functions of multiple variables.
 
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1. What is Schwarz's theorem?

Schwarz's theorem, also known as the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, is a mathematical rule that states the absolute value of the inner product of two vectors is less than or equal to the product of their magnitudes. It is used to prove various mathematical statements and is an important tool in linear algebra and analysis.

2. What is the significance of Schwarz's theorem?

Schwarz's theorem is significant because it allows us to prove important mathematical statements and inequalities. It is also used in physics and engineering to analyze various physical phenomena and systems. Additionally, it is a fundamental result in mathematics and has many applications in different fields.

3. Can you provide an example of how Schwarz's theorem is used?

One example of how Schwarz's theorem is used is in the proof of the triangle inequality. The triangle inequality states that the sum of the lengths of any two sides of a triangle is greater than or equal to the length of the third side. Using Schwarz's theorem, we can prove this by showing that the magnitude of the sum of two vectors is always greater than or equal to the magnitude of their difference.

4. Is Schwarz's theorem only applicable to vectors?

No, Schwarz's theorem can also be applied to other mathematical objects such as matrices, functions, and complex numbers. In fact, it is a generalization of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, which applies to any inner product space.

5. How is Schwarz's theorem related to other mathematical concepts?

Schwarz's theorem is closely related to other mathematical concepts such as orthogonality, inner products, and norms. It is also used in the proof of other theorems, such as the H\H2lder's inequality and the Minkowski inequality. Furthermore, it has connections to geometry, calculus, and other branches of mathematics.

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