Quick question: ISD codes and international roaming

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The discussion revolves around the use of ISD codes for making international phone calls while roaming. Participants explore the correct ISD code to use when someone calls a person who is traveling abroad, as well as the costs associated with international calling and roaming services.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that when someone from the homeland calls a person traveling abroad, they should use the ISD code of the person's homeland (e.g., +91 for India) regardless of the traveler's current location.
  • Others argue that the caller does not need to know the traveler's location, and the call will be directed to the traveler's phone using their usual number.
  • A later reply questions the process for calling someone in the traveler's homeland while they are abroad, confirming the use of the homeland's ISD code.
  • Concerns are raised about the high costs associated with international calls and roaming, with some participants noting that these costs can vary significantly based on the mobile operator and the specific plan.
  • One participant shares their experience with a specific mobile plan that offers affordable roaming rates, highlighting the differences in costs between various providers.
  • There is mention of the prefix needed for international calls from the US, which is 011, contrasting with the prefix used in other countries.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the homeland's ISD code when receiving calls while abroad, but there are varying opinions on the costs and specifics of calling procedures. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact distribution of costs and the best practices for international calling.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the costs of international calls and roaming, noting that these depend on various factors including mobile operator policies and specific plans. There are also unresolved questions regarding the best practices for dialing international numbers from different locations.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for travelers, individuals considering international roaming plans, and those interested in understanding the complexities of international calling procedures and costs.

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Suppose a person goes from his homeland to some other country. He has a phone number registered in his homeland. Now, someone from his homeland (or any country except his destination) wants to call him over the phone. What ISD code should be used - the one of the person's homeland, or that of the person's destination?

As an example, say I travel to the USA. I have a mobile number that is registered in my homeland (India). Now, someone from my country wants to call me. Should that person prefix "+91" (ISD code for India) or "+1" to call me?
 
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The person who calls you cannot know your present location, at least theoretically. So he simply calls your usual phone number and the telephone company directs it to where you are. So +91 is the answer. It should work even without it. The US code is only necessary, if a phone registered in the US is called, e.g. non mobile phones, or if you chose to buy an American contract.

The costs on the other side is a different question. It usually costs extra fees for your friend to reach you as some networks of third party companies need to be used. I cannot tell the exact distribution of costs, as this depends on too many unknowns, but it can get quite expensive.
 
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Thanks for the answer.
fresh_42 said:
It should work even without it.
For the inverse, that is, if I call someone who is in India while I am still in the US, I have to prefix the isd code of India, right?
 
Right, you have to use +91, or 0091. But again, it can be rather expensive. It took the EU several years until they regulated the roaming costs for phone calls and for SMS, which in some cases had been ridiculously high.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Right, you have to use +91, or 0091. But again, it can be rather expensive. It took the EU several years until they regulated the roaming costs for phone calls and for SMS, which in some cases had been ridiculously high.
Costs are quite high, I agree. Indian mobile operators have unusually high rates, but they also have some packages, giving you some fixed time of call for some fixed money. Dad would be traveling to Dubai this week; that's why these questions arose.
 
fresh_42 said:
Right, you have to use +91, or 0091.
In the US, the prefix for an international call is 011, not 00.
 
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fresh_42 said:
I cannot tell the exact distribution of costs, as this depends on too many unknowns, but it can get quite expensive.
Wrichik Basu said:
Costs are quite high, I agree
maybe you need to shop around for better deals ...

I'm with Vodafone Australia, my roaming for calls and data are dirt cheap. They have the most popular 20 countries on their list
and if I am in one of those countries it only costs me $5 per 24hrs or part thereof of use. I have used it traveling to USA, New Zealand
and to South Africa. If there is a full 24 hrs of non-use ( never happens) during my say 2 week trip, then that is $5 less to pay
for each of those periods..
It includes my full data usage up to my max monthly data allowance (40GB) so as a result, not only do I use it for occasional
phone calls, it gets used every day for internet access ( use my phone as a WiFi hotspot and connect my tablet etc to it)

My last trip was to NZ last March for 9 days so all I paid was an extra $45 on my phone bill

as far as actual numbers dialled...
Some one calling me (regardless of where they are) call my number as tho I am at home in Australia -- doesn't cost them any extra
If I call an Australian number - I call them as I would if I was in Australia
If I am in New Zealand and calling a NZ number, I can call using the full prefix eg 0011 ( gets out of AU) 64 ( NZ country code)
then the area code 3 and actual phone # so 0011643 4xxxxxx or I can just do +643 4xxxxxx

Dave
 
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