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The discussion revolves around Problem 2.20 from Joseph Rotman's "Advanced Modern Algebra," which asks participants to prove that if R is a commutative ring, then the polynomial ring R[x] is never a field. The scope includes theoretical reasoning and mathematical proofs related to properties of polynomial rings.

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  • Peter seeks assistance with Problem 2.20 and suggests that showing the existence of polynomials without inverses could be a starting point.
  • Peter reflects on his own reasoning, noting that if R is a commutative ring, constant polynomials may not have inverses, implying R[x] cannot be a field unless R is itself a field.
  • Peter mentions specific polynomials like $$ p(x) = x, x^2, x^3 $$ that would require inverses such as $$ x^{-1}, x^{-2}, x^{-3} $$, which do not qualify as polynomials.
  • A participant presents a proof by contradiction, arguing that if x had an inverse in R[x], it would lead to a contradiction by equating coefficients, ultimately concluding that R[x] would be a trivial ring.
  • Another participant reiterates the proof by contradiction, affirming the reasoning and thanking another user for their help with the formal proof.

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Participants generally agree on the reasoning that R[x] cannot be a field due to the lack of inverses for certain polynomials. However, there is no explicit consensus on the completeness or correctness of the proofs presented, as the discussion includes multiple perspectives and approaches.

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The discussion does not resolve all assumptions regarding the nature of R or the implications of the proofs, leaving open questions about the completeness of the arguments and the definitions involved.

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I am reading Joseph Rotman's book Advanced Modern Algebra.

I need help with Problem 2.20 on page 94.

Problem 2.20 reads as follows:

2.20. Prove that if R is a commutative ring then R[x] is never a field.

Could someone please help me get started on this problem.

Peter

***EDIT*** Presumably one shows there are polynomials that do not have inverses??/
 
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Peter said:
I am reading Joseph Rotman's book Advanced Modern Algebra.

I need help with Problem 2.20 on age 94.

Problem 2.20 reads as follows:

2.20. Prove that if R is a commutative ring then R[x] is never a field.

Could someone please help me get started on this problem.

Peter

***EDIT*** Presumably one shows there are polynomials that do not have inverses??/
I have been reflecting on my own post ... and two points come to mind regarding Rotman's Problem 2.20.

Firstly since R is a commutative ring we cannot guarantee that the constant polynomials have inverses ... so on this ground alone R[x] can not be a field ... ... unless of course, R is a field in which case the constant polynomials will have inverses ... but then ...

Secondly, polynomials such as $$ p(x) = x \text{ or } x^2 \text{ or } x^3 \text{ etc. } $$ would require 'polynomials' like $$ x^{-1} \text{ or } x^{-2} \text{ or } x^{-3} \text{ etc. } $$ and these do not come under the definition of polynomials ...

Can someone please confirm that the above analysis presents an answer to Rotman's problem 2.2)? I would appreciate any critique of the "proof".

Peter
 
Claim: $x$ has no inverse in $R[x]$, if $R \neq \{0\}$.

Proof (by contradiction):

Suppose it did, so we have some polynomial:

$a_0 + a_1x + \cdots + a_nx^n \in R[x]$ with:

$x(a_0 + a_1x + \cdots + a_nx^n) = 1$, that is:

$0 + a_0x + a_1x^2 + \cdots + a_nx^{n+1} = 1 + 0x + 0x^2 + \cdots + 0x^{n+1}$.

Equating coefficients (which we can do since $R$ is commutative, and thus we can view $R[x]$ as an $R$-module with BASIS: $\{1,x,x^2,\dots\}$-recall that commutative rings have the invariant basis property), we have:

$a_0 = a_1 = \dots = a_n = 0$,
$0 = 1$,

which means that $R[x]$ is a TRIVIAL ring, contradiction.

(and this means, yes, you're right!).
 
Deveno said:
Claim: $x$ has no inverse in $R[x]$, if $R \neq \{0\}$.

Proof (by contradiction):

Suppose it did, so we have some polynomial:

$a_0 + a_1x + \cdots + a_nx^n \in R[x]$ with:

$x(a_0 + a_1x + \cdots + a_nx^n) = 1$, that is:

$0 + a_0x + a_1x^2 + \cdots + a_nx^{n+1} = 1 + 0x + 0x^2 + \cdots + 0x^{n+1}$.

Equating coefficients (which we can do since $R$ is commutative, and thus we can view $R[x]$ as an $R$-module with BASIS: $\{1,x,x^2,\dots\}$-recall that commutative rings have the invariant basis property), we have:

$a_0 = a_1 = \dots = a_n = 0$,
$0 = 1$,

which means that $R[x]$ is a TRIVIAL ring, contradiction.

(and this means, yes, you're right!).

Thanks Deveno ... Definitely needed help with the formal proof ... Appreciate the help

Peter
 

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