Radius and Weight and the Earth

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the weight of an individual on a hypothetical planet with different mass and radius compared to Earth. The original poster, Susan, is working with gravitational force concepts and the formula for gravitational attraction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using the gravitational force formula and setting up a comparison ratio to avoid needing exact values for Earth's mass and radius. Questions arise about how to express the weight on the other planet in relation to Earth's weight.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on forming a ratio to compare weights on Earth and the other planet. There is an acknowledgment of the calculations leading to a weight that seems plausible, though some express concern about the physical implications of such a scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the lack of specific values for Earth's mass and radius, which are not provided in the problem statement. There is also discussion about the feasibility of the scenario presented by the teacher.

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The question my teacher gave me is as follows...
If Pat weighs 750N on Earth, what would Pat weigh on another planet with twice Earth's mass and one quarter the Earth's radius?
We are not given the exact radius or mass of the Earth and I am having a hard time figuring it out.
I know I have to used the formula Fg =G(m1)(m2)/r squared
I considered also trying to find some kind of ratio (like 2/(.25)squared) but I don't understand how that will help me and what I have to do from there

My test is tomorrow, please help!
Thanks,
Susan
 
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susan__t said:
I know I have to used the formula Fg =G(m1)(m2)/r squared
I considered also trying to find some kind of ratio (like 2/(.25)squared)

Yes, you want to set up a comparison ratio; that way, you don't need to know the exact mass and radius of Earth.

Call the weight of the person on Earth W_e . That is given by

W_e = G·(mass of person)·(mass of Earth) / (radius of Earth)^2 .

Call their weight on the other planet W_p . How would you write that?

Since you want to compare the two, what is the quotient (W_p)/(W_e)? That is to say, if you take the ratio of the two expressions, what cancels out and what remains?

You are given the ratio of the planet's radius to Earth's radius and the ratio of the planet's mass to Earth's mass. You will get a numerical value for (W_p)/(W_e) . Since you know the person's weight on Earth (W_e = 750 N), you can now find their weight on the other planet, W_p .
 
Thank you that's wonderful, I ended up with 24000 Newtons which sounds about right
 
That looks right, but it sounds painful... (That's almost 5400 lbs.!)
 
dynamicsolo said:
That looks right, but it sounds painful... (That's almost 5400 lbs.!)
On a planet that's 30x denser than Earth...You wonder if the teacher could have come up with a scenario that could at least physically exist.
 

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