Radius of Curvature, Lenses, Finding Di

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the image location when viewing oneself in a spherical mirror, specifically a shiny Christmas tree ball with a given diameter. The context includes the application of the mirror formula and considerations regarding focal length.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the lens formula to a mirror, questioning the original poster's use of focal length and signs. There are suggestions to utilize ray diagrams for clarity in understanding the image formation.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the correct application of formulas and the importance of sign conventions. There is acknowledgment of a potential misunderstanding regarding the focal length and diameter of the mirror, with guidance offered to draw diagrams for better visualization.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the definitions of focal length and radius of curvature, as well as the application of the lens formula to a mirror setup. The original poster's understanding of the focal point appears to be under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



If you look at yourself in a shiny Christmas tree ball with a diameter of 8.1 cm when your face is 35. 0cm away from it, where is your image?

Homework Equations



1/do + 1/di = 1/f


The Attempt at a Solution



1/di = 1/4.05 cm - 1/35.0 cm

di = 4.6 cm

I thought f = 8.1 cm / 2
 
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PeachBanana said:
I thought f = 8.1 cm / 2
Not quite - where did you get that formula from?

Also, you need to watch your signs here. You are applying a lens formula to a mirror, and that means some careful thought is needed. Far and away the easiest thing to do is draw a couple of ray diagrams.

First, put the object on the left and the mirror in the middle. Rays go left-to-right, strike the mirror, and go back right-to-left. Add back-tracks to the reflected rays if that's necessary to find the image position.

Second, flip the reflected rays and their back-tracks (if any) around. So, if a ray strikes the mirror and bounces back at 10° above the horizontal, make it 10° above the horizontal in the opposite direction. You have replaced the mirror with a lens that (except for transmitting the light rather than reflecting it) does the exact same thing as the mirror. Now you can apply your lens formula (think about the sign on f!) to this diagram. That should let you label your original diagram easily enough.
 
Hello. The book said the focal point = radius of curvature / 2 but I'm sure I misapplied it. I will go back and do what you said.
 
Hopefully the book says focal distance, but otherwise I think you've just made a minor slip - 8.1cm is the diameter of the ball, not the radius.

I'd still suggest drawing it out to make sure you get the right sign on f.
 

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