Radius of the sun and earth not flat

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The discussion centers on estimating the radius of the sun based on the distances to the sun and moon, which are approximately 150 million km and 400,000 km, respectively. The participant calculated the sun's radius to be 652,500 km using a proportional relationship with the moon's radius of 1,740 km. Additionally, the discussion highlights that ancient astronomers concluded the Earth was not flat due to observations such as the circular shadow cast during lunar eclipses and the visibility of ships at sea from higher vantage points. The hint provided regarding centripetal acceleration and Newton's law of gravitation was deemed irrelevant to the radius calculation.

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  • Understanding of basic astronomical distances (e.g., distance to the sun and moon)
  • Familiarity with proportional reasoning in geometry
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  • Basic principles of Newton's law of gravitation
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Homework Statement



1. (a) Given that the distances to the sun and the moon are approximately 150 million km and 400,000 km respectively. and that the radius of the moon is 1740 km , estimate the radius of the sun.[Hint:k=9*10^9 Nm^2/C^2, g=10ms^-2) ]

(b) Ancient astronomers knew that the Earth was not flat because it cast a circular shadow during a lunar eclipse. state another observation that led them to the same conclusion


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what I've done is:
(a). s = m (150 million km / 400,000 km)
= 1740 km * 375 km
= 652,500 km

(b). Ships at sea can be seen farther away from a higher vantage point.

Am I right about those two question? For (a) how do I use hint to do this?
Thank you for any idea that help me.
 
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hi quah13579! :smile:

yes, your answer to (a) is fine (i assume you're using the fact that the moon is only just large enough to eclipse the sun :wink:)

i think the hint is wrong (or maybe it's the right hint to the wrong question) … it's presumably
intended to enable you to compare the centripetal acceleration with Newton's law of gravitation, but the radius of the sun (or moon) isn't relevant to that! :rolleyes:

your answer to (b) is true, but it's not really an astronomical observation, is it?

hint: how did the ancient greeks measure the Earth's radius? :wink:
 

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