Rate of heat transfer and heat conductors

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The discussion focuses on calculating the rate of heat transfer between a cold pool of water and hot air, considering factors such as thermal conductivity and surface area. Alex emphasizes the complexity of the calculation, particularly when accounting for the temperature of the vessel containing the water and the effects of evaporation. The heat transfer is modeled using a 2D heat flow equation, incorporating conduction, convection, and radiation as the primary modes of heat loss. The importance of temperature difference and boundary conditions in solving the equations is highlighted.

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lets say you have the following situation: you have a cold pool of water, and hot air outside. how do you calculate the rate at which heat is exchanged (given Twater and Tair, the surface area of the pool, etc.)?
Now, let's say you add a layer of a certain material x meters thick that has a known thermal conductivity between air and water. how is the rate of heat transfer modified?

Thanks,

Alex
 
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don't tell me nobody here knows how to do that...
 
It's not a straightforward calculation :
If the water is contained in a vessel or cavity, what is the temperature of the walls of the vessel/cavity. Is this temperature going to change, ie : is the vessel infinitely thick compared to the volume of water ?)

You need to set up a 2D heat flow equation inside the water, and you need to add heat loss due to evaporation (though this is probably small). Assume some temperature distribution T(r,z) for a cylindrical pool. Then :

Q_r = -KA(r) {\frac {\partial{T}} {\partial{r}}}, and
A(r) = 2\pi rh

Similarly for the z-direction. Try a separable solution. Put in the boundary conditions and solve.
 
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Its a little bit complicated for the pool because a little bit of wind makes a vast difference. Heat will leave the pool through all three typical ways: conduction (water touching the air), convection (air moving around above the water), and radiation (like a light bulb). The temperature difference is key though.

Thermal conductivity in a single material is easier: you need temperature difference from one side to the other, thickness, and conductivity.

You want some actual math? It gets pretty rough...
 

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