Rate of increase of a radius and height of a cone

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The discussion centers on the mathematical relationship between the height and radius of a conical pile of coal, specifically under the constraints of an angle of repose of 38%. The formula derived is h = r * tan(a), where h is height, r is radius, and a is the angle of repose. Additionally, the problem involves determining the rate of increase of the radius (dr/dt) when the coal is poured onto the pile at a volumetric rate of 0.3 m³/min, specifically when the radius is 1.7 m. Participants emphasize the need to express the volume of the cone in terms of its radius and differentiate to find the desired rates.

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Homework Statement


when powder or granular solids are piled up. the powder forms a conical pile. the edge of the pile reaches a certain maximum angle with the horizontal, called the angle or repose.

A) a pile of coal is found to have an angle of repose of 38%
what is the relationship between height of the pile and its radius.

i got that bit: h=r*Tan a
h= height, r=radius a= Angle of repose


B)if a conveyor belt pours the coal onto the pile at a rate of 0.3m^3/min, at what rate is the radius increasing when the radius is 1.7m

i think i might have to derive the equaiton but i really don't know. i think i need the formula for the area of cone but i don't know. if i did i wouldn't be posting here!
 
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hi brandy

you are given a volumetric rate of change (dV/dt) and want to know the rate of change of the radius (dr/dt).

Can you write the volume of a cone in terms of its radius? You will probably have to use your results form a) to write the height in terms of the radius as well.

Then you can look at differentiating to relate the rates
 
A cone has a third of the volume of a cylinder with the same height and base. Can you find the volume of the cone with that?
 

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