Rational roots theorem to prove irrational

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The problem involves using the rational roots theorem to demonstrate that the expression \( \sqrt{3} - 2^{1/3} \) is irrational. The context is rooted in algebraic manipulation and properties of roots.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for manipulating the expression, including cubing and squaring to eliminate fractional exponents. There are questions about the complexity of the algebra involved and the implications of the rational roots theorem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on the algebraic steps to take, suggesting a sequence of cubing followed by squaring. There is acknowledgment of the potential complexity in the resulting expressions, indicating an ongoing exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of handling the algebraic expressions and the implications of the rational roots theorem, including the nature of the constant term and leading coefficient. There is a focus on ensuring careful manipulation of terms throughout the discussion.

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Homework Statement



Use the rational roots theorem to prove 31/2-21/3is irrational.


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My teacher strongly hinted to us that this problem had something to do with the fact that complex roots come in conjugate pairs, and all we had to do was, "flip the sign". But there isn't anything complex about this.

I was trying to work it out by setting x=31/2-21/3and trying to get rid of the fractional exponents by squaring or cubing, but I can't get the algebra down to get that to work.
 
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Your method does work -- try cubing to get rid of the cube root first, then squaring to deal with the square root. The result then follows from the rational root theorem (your constant term will be prime and your leading co-efficient a one, giving you only four cases to verify).
 
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FeDeX_LaTeX said:
Your method does work -- try cubing to get rid of the cube root first, then squaring to deal with the square root. The result then follows from the rational root theorem (your constant term will be prime and your leading co-efficient a one, giving you only four cases to verify).

I'm getting a TON of terms when I do it this way, am I doing something wrong, or should I just be extremely careful with the algebra and expect it to be messy?
 
Expand ##(\sqrt{3} - x)^3 = 2## (there's your cubing of both sides). The LHS should give you some square roots which you can put together on one side and square to get rid of them. The result should be a polynomial of order 6.
 
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