Re-write the denominator as x*(x^6-1)=x*(x^3-1)*(x^3+1)

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int \frac{dx}{x^7-x}\). Participants explore methods for simplifying the denominator and finding the integral, including polynomial division and partial fractions decomposition.

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  • One participant suggests rewriting the denominator as \(x*(x^6-1)=x*(x^3-1)*(x^3+1)\) and using polynomial division to simplify the expression.
  • Another participant expresses frustration at the complexity of the problem, asking if there is a simpler method available.
  • A different participant provides a detailed breakdown of the integration process, including the use of logarithmic functions and partial fractions, arriving at an expression for the integral.
  • One participant acknowledges the previous response positively, indicating it was a good approach.

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There is no clear consensus on the best method to approach the integration problem, as some participants propose different strategies and express varying levels of difficulty with the problem.

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Participants do not fully resolve the complexity of the integration process, and there are indications of differing opinions on the simplicity of the methods discussed.

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Can anyone help me with this \int \frac{dx}{x^7-x}?
 
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1. Re-write the denominator as x*(x^6-1)=x*(x^3-1)*(x^3+1)

2. Use polynomial division to reduce the third-degree polynomials:
(x^{3}\pm{1}):(x\pm{1})=x^{2}\mp{x}+1

3. See if these can be factorized any further, then use partial fractions decomposition.
 


but it takes an hour to do it
is there any simpler method for this?
 


I guess you had better stick to trivial problems!
 


1/(x^7-x) = 1/(x*(x^6-1))= -1/x+x^5/(x^6-1)
int(-1/x+x^5/(x^6-1), x)=
int(-1/x, x)=-ln(x)
int(x^5/(x^6-1), x)=(1/6)*ln(x^6-1)
int(1/(x^7-x), x)=-ln(x)+(1/6)*ln(x^6-1)
 


1/(x^7-x) = 1/(x*(x^6-1))= -1/x+x^5/(x^6-1)
I didn't see that one..

Very good, saeed69! :smile:
 

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