Recommendation for a book on history of science

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The discussion centers around recommendations for books on the history of science, specifically targeting works that are more academic in nature rather than those aimed at the general public. Participants explore various aspects of the history of science, including its intersection with mathematics and specific fields of interest.

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  • One participant seeks recommendations for a book on the history of science that is academically rigorous and well-cited.
  • Another participant suggests a speculative book that may not align with the original request for academic depth.
  • A question is raised about whether the participant is also interested in the history of mathematics, to which they affirm both fields are of interest.
  • There is a discussion about the difficulty of separating the history of science and mathematics, with a focus on figures like Newton who contributed to both fields.
  • One participant emphasizes the need for specificity regarding the field of science and the historical scope, suggesting that a single book may not suffice for a comprehensive overview.
  • Another participant highlights the significance of chemistry's development in the 19th century and its historical context, including the transition from alchemy to scientific chemistry.
  • A participant shares their preference for reading original scientific works rather than summaries, citing specific historical texts and authors they found valuable.
  • Recommendations include works by Philipp Frank and Isaac Asimov, with a note that Asimov's non-fiction is particularly noteworthy.

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Participants express varying opinions on the scope of the history of science and the types of sources that are most valuable. There is no consensus on a specific book recommendation that meets all criteria outlined by the original poster.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the historical significance of various scientific disciplines and the evolution of scientific thought, but there are limitations in terms of the depth of coverage for specific fields and time periods.

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I am looking for a book on the history of science. I do not want one that is targeted to 'general public', in the sense that I want it to be more towards the academic community, i.e. more deeply presented and cited, etc. Are there any recommendations?
 
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Does it have to be science, or are you also ok with mathematics?
 
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Both are fine. Apparently it is hard to separate them, for example Newton was both physicist and mathematician (at least from contribution point of view).
 
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I am looking for a book on the history of science. I do not want one that is targeted to 'general public', in the sense that I want it to be more towards the academic community, i.e. more deeply presented and cited, etc. Are there any recommendations?
If that's the case, are you interested in the history of one particular science, or what? You should be as specific as possible here, not only because of the breadth of scientific inquiry, but because the history part covers a couple thousand years for some sciences.

If you want to cover the whole of science with an academic reference, then you're not looking for a single book, but an encyclopedia.
 
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Right. I am looking for 'only' the past couple hundred years. As to what field, I am considering Physical Sciences mainly (i.e. excluding medicine). I would expect that, at least before the beginning of the last century, there was only 'physics' and 'math' to large extent.
 
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Right. I am looking for 'only' the past couple hundred years. As to what field, I am considering Physical Sciences mainly (i.e. excluding medicine). I would expect that, at least before the beginning of the last century, there was only 'physics' and 'math' to large extent.
I think you are overlooking quite a bit.

Chemistry came on very strong during the 19th century, particularly with the development of organic chemistry, not to mention the discovery and isolation of various chemical elements. It's interesting how alchemy morphed gradually into scientific chemistry during the eighteenth century, and several important discoveries were made by earlier alchemists. (It's not generally realized, but Newton himself spent quite a bit of his free time dabbling with alchemy.)

Astronomy and observation of the heavens are a couple of the oldest sciences, dating back to the Babylonians a couple thousand years ago.
 
when i have read histories of math say, they were much too condensed to follow well. so I prefer myself to read a historical scientific source work rather than a summary. so i enjoyed Einstein's papers, but often ones aimed at the general public as well as papers by other early 20th century physicists. I especially enjoyed the book A non mathematical survey of quanta, by Louis de Broglie. I also recommend Euclid, for the best possible historical source of much of modern mathematics, as well as Gauss's Disquisitiones Arithmeticae. and maybe Newton's Principia, also Euler's works on algebra and analysis. I also liked Georg Cantor's little book on transfinite numbers. I guess I am recommending you read the works that would be cited in a history of science, rather the history itself, since those earlier works are written by the masters.
 
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tom8 said:
I am looking for a book on the history of science. I do not want one that is targeted to 'general public', in the sense that I want it to be more towards the academic community, i.e. more deeply presented and cited, etc. Are there any recommendations?
Philipp Frank, "Philosophy of Science".
 

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