Recrystallizing out of methanol

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The discussion revolves around the process of recrystallizing salt from methanol, focusing on the challenges faced by the original poster in achieving the desired crystallization outcome. The scope includes practical experimentation and conceptual understanding of recrystallization techniques.

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  • The original poster describes their method of recrystallizing salt from methanol and expresses frustration with the results, noting that the expected thin flaky crystals did not form.
  • One participant questions the expectation that a dried substance would easily separate from the glass, suggesting that this is not a guaranteed outcome.
  • Another participant challenges the purpose of the recrystallization process, indicating that it typically aims to purify a substance and requires knowledge of the material and impurities involved.
  • The original poster acknowledges the feedback and indicates a willingness to conduct further experiments and seek additional advice.

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Participants express differing views on the expectations and outcomes of the recrystallization process. There is no consensus on the effectiveness of the method described or the understanding of the underlying principles.

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The discussion highlights potential limitations in the original poster's understanding of recrystallization, including the need for background knowledge about the compound and impurities, as well as the variability in outcomes based on experimental conditions.

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Individuals interested in practical chemistry, particularly those exploring recrystallization techniques or facing challenges in similar experimental setups.

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Hi, I am trying to recrystallize salt from methanol. I am having trouble. This is exactly what I did:

I dissolved a gram of salt into 20 ml of methanol (the bottle I have says methyl hydrate but I read online that it's the same thing as methanol). Then I made a hot water bath. I put a pyrex dish into a pot of boiling water. Using an eye dropper, I dropped a few drops into the pyrex beaker. I expected the methanol to evaporate almost immediately, leaving me with a thin flakey crystal that can easily be scraped off. But at best, I am left with a small piece of crust that is impossible to scrape off the pyrex dish. What is wrong?
 
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No idea why you expected dried out substance to easily separate from the glass. It may, but it doesn't have to.
 
What are you planning on getting out of this process? It seems to me that you are just spinning your wheels. Making a solution and evaporating the solvent leaves you with the material you started with minus some time and energy.

Recrystallizations are typically done to purify something from a mixture and requires either some background knowledge of the system (what your compound is, what impurities might be there etc) or a bunch of trial and error.

See Wikipedia for a intro discussion: Recrystallization
 
Thanks for the replies! I have read a lot about crystallization and I will be doing some experiments over the next couple of days. I will update this thread if I have any questions.
 

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