Recurrence relations with rabbits pairs

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The problem involves modeling the growth of a rabbit population using recurrence relations. It specifies that a single pair of rabbits is born at the beginning of the year, with certain reproductive constraints and growth patterns over a twelve-month period.

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  • Participants discuss the formulation of a recurrence relation for the number of rabbit pairs over time, with attempts to express it in terms of previous values. Questions arise regarding the classification of rabbits as adults and the implications of their reproductive capabilities.

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There is ongoing exploration of the correct recurrence relation, with various formulations being proposed. Some participants express uncertainty about the definitions of adult and maturing rabbits, while others suggest alternative ways to express the relationships between the variables involved.

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Participants note the importance of correctly accounting for the age of the rabbits and their reproductive status, as well as the need to express the recurrence relation in a specific format. There is also mention of a table summarizing the population growth, which appears to be a point of reference in the discussion.

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A single pair (male and female) of rabbits is born at the beginning of the year. Assume the following:

1) Each pair is not fertile for their first month bet thereafter give birth to four new male/female pairs at the end of every month

2) no rabbits die

a) let r_{n} be the number of pairs of rabbits alive at the end of each month n for each integer n \ge 1 find a recurrence relation for r_{0},r_{1},r_{2}...

b) how many rabbits will there be at the end of the yearMonth | Babies (in pairs) | Adults (in pairs) | total Pairs (r_{n})
1 |1 |0 |1
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2 |4 |1 |5
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3 |20 |5 |25
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4 |100 |25 |125
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5 |400 |125 |525
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6 |2100 |525 |2625
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7 |10500 |2625 |13125
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8 |52500 |13125 |65625
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9 |262500 |65625 |328125
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10 |1312500 |328125 |1640625
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11 |6562500 |1640625 |8203125
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12 |328125000 |8203125 |41015625

(sorry for the ugly table)

the recurrence relation seems to be r_{n} = a+4a where a = number of adults, for n \ge 1

is that correct?

and part b) would be 41,015,625 pairs so 82,031,250 rabbits
 
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jonroberts74 said:
the recurrence relation seems to be r_{n} = a+4a where a = number of adults, for n \ge 1

is that correct?

It is not correct. You have now counted the adults and the newborns, but not the rabbits which are now 1 month old.



It is also not in the form they are looking for. You have to express ##r_n## in terms of ##r_k## with ##k<n##. So for example, a possible (but obviously incorrect) answer would be ##r_n = 100r_{n-1} + 5\sqrt{r_{n-3}r_{n-2}}##.

You express it in terms of ##a##. Can you perhaps express ##a## in terms of ##r_k##?
 
micromass said:
It is not correct. You have now counted the adults and the newborns, but not the rabbits which are now 1 month old.
It is also not in the form they are looking for. You have to express ##r_n## in terms of ##r_k## with ##k<n##. So for example, a possible (but obviously incorrect) answer would be ##r_n = 100r_{n-1} + 5\sqrt{r_{n-3}r_{n-2}}##.

You express it in terms of ##a##. Can you perhaps express ##a## in terms of ##r_k##?

aren't the rabbits that are 1 month old adults now because it says they are not fertile for the first month then give birth to 4 (male/female) pairs at the end of the month.

or am I incorrect in my computation

should it be

in the beginning there's

1 pair born, then the first month they have no births then the second month they make 4 pairs.

then the 3rd month: the original pair breeds 4 , the 4 pairs from the last month grow to maturity for a total of 9 pairs

then in month 4 there's 5 pairs that can breed, 4 pairs that mature, and 20 pairs born
 
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adult pairs = adults of previous month + maturing pairs of previous month

maturing pairs = baby pairs from previous month

baby pairs = 4(adult pairs from previous month + maturing pairs from previous month)
 
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| month | Adults | babies | maturing | total |
| ----- | ------ | ------ | --------- | ----- |
| 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 5 |
| 3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 9 |
| 4 | 5 | 20 | 4 | 29 |
| 5 | 9 | 36 | 20 | 65 |
| 6 | 29 | 116 | 36 | 181 |
| 7 | 65 | 260 | 116 | 441 |
| 8 | 181 | 724 | 260 | 1165 |
| 9 | 441 | 1764 | 724 | 2929 |
| 10 | 1165 | 4660 | 1765 | 7589 |
| 11 | 2929 | 11716 | 4660 | 19305 |
| 12 | 7589 | 30356 | 11716 | 49661 |
 
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jonroberts74 said:
| month | Adults | babies | maturing | total |
| ----- | ------ | ------ | --------- | ----- |
| 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 |
| 2 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 5 |
| 3 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 9 |
| 4 | 5 | 20 | 4 | 29 |
| 5 | 9 | 36 | 20 | 65 |
| 6 | 29 | 116 | 36 | 181 |
| 7 | 65 | 260 | 116 | 441 |
| 8 | 181 | 724 | 260 | 1165 |
| 9 | 441 | 1764 | 724 | 2929 |
| 10 | 1165 | 4660 | 1765 | 7589 |
| 11 | 2929 | 11716 | 4660 | 19305 |
| 12 | 7589 | 30356 | 11716 | 49661 |

Your table seems correct to me (I haven't checked it to the end)


jonroberts74 said:
the recurrence relation seems to be r_{n} = a+4a where a = number of adults

Try to avoid using "a" (the number of adults), it's unnecessary.

How could you write it in terms of r_n? What do all the adult rabbits have in common?
 
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I think the recurrence relation is

r_{n}=r_{n-2}+4r_{n-2} + r_{n-1} - r_{n-2}

which simplifies to

4r_{n-2} + r_{n-1}
 
jonroberts74 said:
which simplifies to

4r_{n-2} + r_{n-1}

Looks good to me!
 
jonroberts74 said:
I think the recurrence relation is

r_{n}=r_{n-2}+4r_{n-2} + r_{n-1} - r_{n-2}

which simplifies to

4r_{n-2} + r_{n-1}

Seems ok!
 

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