Reflection of Pulses (Theoretical Problems)

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The discussion revolves around a theoretical problem involving a massless ring connected to a spring, which is free to slide along a frictionless rod. The scenario includes a pulse traveling towards a free end of the rod, and participants are exploring the forces acting on the ring and the implications of its massless nature.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the net force on the ring, questioning how its massless nature affects the forces involved. They explore the relationship between the spring force and the ring's acceleration, and whether gravitational forces play a role in this setup. There are also inquiries about the direction of forces acting on the ring and the implications of oscillation when the ring is displaced from equilibrium.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the forces acting on the ring and the role of the spring force. However, there remains uncertainty regarding the gravitational force's influence and the behavior of the system when the ring is displaced. The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on specific aspects of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the ring is massless and the rod is frictionless, which raises questions about the implications of these assumptions on the forces and motion described. There is also a request for a free body diagram to aid in understanding the forces at play.

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Homework Statement


We begin by considering the forces exerted on a ring that is connected to a spring and that is free to slide along a rod

TOP VIEW: The diagram is top view
Diagram Description (sorry don't have a pic): A pulse traveling towards a free end (has NOT reached the boundary yet), moving to the right.

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Assume the ring is massless and that the rod is frictionless

i.) What is the net force on the ring? (Hint: Consider what happens to the net force on an object as its mass approaches zero)

ii) Does the net force on a massless ring depend on the acceleration of the ring? Explain

iii) What is the magnitude of the gravitational force exerted on the ring? (Recall the ring is massless.)

iv) Does the force exerted on the ring by the rod have a component that is parallel to the rod? Explain (Hint: Recall the assumptions made above)

Homework Equations



F = ma
F = kx (Hooke's Law)

The Attempt at a Solution



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i) Since the ring is initially at equilibrium along the rod, we assume the net force is equal to zero. Horizontal displacement is caused by the spiring force and thus the net force once the pulse reaches the boundary, the ring accelerates upward by the spring force exerted by the spring

ii) No. The acceleration of spring is entirely due to the spring force exerted on the ring by the spring. Therefore the net force is entirely due to the spring force and does not depend on the acceleration of the ring.

iii) Since the ring is at equilibrium before the pulse reaches the boundary, we can say the contact force between the rod and the ring has a equal magnitude to the gravitational force. Thus gravity has a magnitude equal to the normal force (contact force) of the rod and the ring (since ring is considered massless).


iv) No. The force exerted by the rod on the ring is a normal force that is vertical and thus orthogonal to the rod.

Next they ask for a free body diagram when the ring is farthest from the equilibrium point

For this, I assume that the vertical forces are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. For the horizontal force, its a spring force OPPOSITE in direction of motion. Does this seem right.
 
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As for acceleration, gravity would be a factor if the direction of motion was vertical or parallel to gravity, otherwise the acceleration will be determined by the spring force, a function of displacement and spring constant, and mass subject to the spring force.

F = kx, where k is spring constant and x is deflection from equilibrium or rest/reference position.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/permot2.html
 
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Alright updated my answers. I'm still puzzled by iii. Seems like there is more to it.
 
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Eureka... I think I solved this. The only problem I have is that if the spring force is the restoring force once the ring is the farthest from the equilibrium point, won't we see some sort of oscillation. Or is energy transferred to the reflected pulse, therefore the ring remains at rest?
 

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