Refractive index of seawater and a diver transmitting RF for 100 meters

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time it takes for a radio signal to travel from a diver 100 meters below the surface of seawater, considering factors such as salinity and temperature. The participants are exploring the concept of the refractive index of seawater and its impact on the velocity of radio waves.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to calculate the refractive index to determine the velocity of the radio signal and subsequently the time taken for the signal to reach the surface. There are questions about how to obtain the refractive index and considerations regarding the properties of radio waves in seawater.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered corrections and suggestions for further research, such as looking into the attenuation of radio frequencies in seawater. The conversation is ongoing, with multiple aspects of the problem being explored without a definitive consensus.

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Participants note the specific conditions of the problem, including the salinity of the seawater and the temperature, which may affect the refractive index and the behavior of radio waves. There is also an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by the language barrier for some participants.

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Homework Statement
We received the following riddle:
a diver 100m below surface, in 32% salinity and 2 degrees Celsius sends a radio signal. How long will it take someone on the surface to receive the signal?
Relevant Equations
v*t=d
v=c/n
I thought I maybe need to find a way to calculate the refractive index (n) and using that calculating the velocity and then the time but I haven't managed to figure out how to get the refractive index? Would love your help.
 
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xphrnzrjh said:
Homework Statement: We received the following riddle:
a diver 100m below surface, in 32% salinity and 2 degrees Celsius sends a radio signal. How long will it take someone on the surface to receive the signal?
Relevant Equations: v*t=d
v=c/n

I thought I maybe need to find a way to calculate the reflective index (n) and using that calculating the velocity and then the time but I haven't managed to figure out how to get the reflective index? Would love your help.
I think you mean refractive index, but first google "radio waves through water"
 
haruspex said:
I think you mean refractive index, but first google "radio waves through water"
Yes thank you for the correction, I edited it in the question now (English isn't my first language 🙏🙏)
 
Welcome to PF.

xphrnzrjh said:
Homework Statement: We received the following riddle:
a diver 100m below surface, in 32% salinity and 2 degrees Celsius sends a radio signal. How long will it take someone on the surface to receive the signal?
You also need to do some reading about the attenuation of RF in conductive liquids like seawater versus the frequency of the RF signal. Submarines use ELF RF communication for a reason... :wink:
 

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