Regarding center of mass of an infinite area

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the center of mass for infinite areas, particularly focusing on specific integrals and their implications for determining the center of mass. Participants explore the evaluation of these integrals and their relationship to the concept of center of mass in infinite figures.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how to evaluate the integral $$\int_{-\infty}^\infty \left(\frac1{x^2}-\cos \frac1x\right)dx=\pi$$ and similar integrals, suggesting a connection to the center of mass.
  • Another participant seeks clarification on the projection of the center of mass onto the y-axis, indicating that it would be represented by the y-coordinate of the center of mass.
  • Concerns are raised about the integral $$\int_0^\infty (x^2-\frac{6}{x^4})dx$$ being the sum of two divergent integrals, which diverge at opposite ends of the domain, leading to confusion about its meaning.
  • Some participants assert that if an integral evaluates to zero, it implies that the center of mass of the figure is on the x-axis.
  • There is a mention of the Laplace transform suggesting that the integral $$\int_0^\infty (x^2-\frac{6}{x^4})dx$$ is zero, despite the divergence concerns.
  • A suggestion is made to evaluate the integral $$\int_{b/a}^a (x^2 - \frac{6}{x^4}) \ dx$$ where $$b = \sqrt[3]{6}$$ as a potential approach to understanding the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the evaluation of the integrals and their implications for the center of mass. There is no consensus on the evaluation methods or the interpretations of the results, particularly regarding the divergent nature of the integrals.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in understanding due to the divergent behavior of the integrals involved and the implications for defining the center of mass in infinite areas. The discussion remains open regarding the evaluation techniques and interpretations.

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How does one find the projection of center of mass of an infinite area on the Y axis?
Regarding finding centers of mass of infinite figures, how one can show that

$$
\int_{-\infty}^\infty \left(\frac1{x^2}-\cos \frac1x\right)dx=\pi
$$

for instance, and other similar integrals, like the following?

$$
\int_0^\infty (x^2-\frac6{x^4})dx=0
$$
 
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Anixx said:
Summary:: How does one find the projection of center of mass of an infinite area on the Y axis?
The projection onto the y-axis of the center of mass would simply be the y-coordinate of the C.M.
Anixx said:
Regarding finding centers of mass of infinite figures, how one can show that

$$
\int_{-\infty}^\infty \left(\frac1{x^2}-\cos \frac1x\right)dx=\pi
$$
Anixx said:
for instance, and other similar integrals, like the following?

$$
\int_0^\infty (x^2-\frac6{x^4})dx=0
$$
Are you asking how to evaluate these two integrals or similar one? What do they have to do with the center of mass?
I don't know how to evaluate the first integral, off the top of my head, but the second one should be relatively easy to do.
 
##\int_0^\infty(x^2-\frac{6}{x^4})dx## is the sum of two divergent integrals - diverging at opposite ends of the domain. Makes no sense!
 
Mark44 said:
Are you asking how to evaluate these two integrals or similar one? What do they have to do with the center of mass?
If the integral is zero, then the center of mass of the figure is on the X-axis.
 
mathman said:
##\int_0^\infty(x^2-\frac{6}{x^4})dx## is the sum of two divergent integrals - diverging at opposite ends of the domain.
That's why I am asking about infinite areas. This exact integral is zero though. At least the Laplace transform points in this direction.
 
Anixx said:
That's why I am asking about infinite areas. This exact integral is zero though. At least the Laplace transform points in this direction.
Try evaluating $$\int_{b/a}^a (x^2 - \frac{6}{x^4}) \ dx$$ where ##b = \sqrt[3]{6}##
 

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