MHB Region of Cone in Cylindrical Coordinates: Wondering

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The region defined by D={ (x, y, z) | √(x²+y²) ≤ z ≤ 1 } represents a cone extending up to z=1, exhibiting rotational symmetry around the z-axis. This symmetry makes cylindrical coordinates advantageous for integration, as they simplify the process by reducing the number of variables. It is clarified that using cylindrical coordinates does not require the region to be a cylinder, similar to how Cartesian coordinates do not necessitate a cuboid. The discussion emphasizes that cylindrical coordinates are particularly useful when dealing with inequalities involving x²+y², while spherical coordinates apply to inequalities involving x²+y²+z². Overall, the choice of coordinate system can significantly ease the integration process.
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Which region does the set $D=\{(x, y, z) \mid \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\leq z\leq 1\}$ represent?

The surface $z= \sqrt{x^2+y^2}$ is a cone, or not? But why when we want to calculate an integral over $D$ we use cylindrical coordinates? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Hey! :o

Which region does the set $D=\{(x, y, z) \mid \sqrt{x^2+y^2}\leq z\leq 1\}$ represent?

The surface $z= \sqrt{x^2+y^2}$ is a cone, or not? But why when we want to calculate an integral over $D$ we use cylindrical coordinates? (Wondering)

Hey mathmari!

Yep. It's a cone up to z=1. (Nod)

It has rotational symmetry around the z-axis, but not around any other axis.
That makes it a prime candidate for cylindrical coordinates, and not for spherical coordinates.
More specifically, if we substitute $\rho=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$, we have one variable less to deal with, which is only the case in cylindrical coordinates. (Nerd)
 
I like Serena said:
It has rotational symmetry around the z-axis, but not around any other axis.

What do you mean? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
What do you mean? I got stuck right now. (Wondering)

Isn't a cone round?
Doesn't it map to itself when we rotate it around the z-axis?
 
I like Serena said:
Isn't a cone round?
Doesn't it map to itself when we rotate it around the z-axis?

Yes.

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mathmari said:
Yes.

We have the following:

Yep. (Nod)

It means that when we integrate over $D$, the integrals will generally be easier.
We should probably look at an example to see why that is exactly. (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Yep. (Nod)

It means that when we integrate over $D$, the integrals will generally be easier.

So, to use the cylindrical coordinates it is not necessary to have a cylinder as the region $D$ ? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
So, to use the spherical coordinates it is not necessary to have a cylinder as the region $D$ ? (Wondering)

Indeed.
Just like we don't need a cuboid to integrate in cartesian coordinates. (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Indeed.
Just like we don't need a cuboid to integrate in cartesian coordinates. (Thinking)

Ah ok. Do we use the cylindrical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2$ and the spherical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2+z^2$ ? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Ah ok. Do we use the cylindrical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2$ and the spherical coordinates when we have an inequality for $x^2+y^2+z^2$ ? (Wondering)

Yes.
It usually makes the integration a lot easier. (Mmm)
 
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I like Serena said:
Yes.
It usually makes the integration a lot easier. (Mmm)

Ah ok! Thank you so much! (Yes)
 

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