Related Rates and acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a related rates problem involving the relationship between distance (s), velocity (v), and acceleration (a). The original poster seeks confirmation on their solution, which expresses acceleration in terms of both s and v, and is unsure how to eliminate v from their final expression.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt to differentiate the velocity equation and express acceleration solely in terms of distance. Questions arise regarding the validity of substitutions and the implications of expressing v in terms of s.

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Participants have pointed out potential mistakes in the original poster's differentiation process and have suggested using the velocity equation to eliminate v. There is an ongoing exploration of how to correctly express acceleration in terms of distance alone, with some participants providing guidance on substitutions.

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The original poster is constrained by the requirement to express acceleration solely in terms of distance, which complicates their approach to the problem.

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I have a question about a related rates, i already solved it, but i would like someone to confirm it to me .

* The relation between distance s and velocity v is given by v=[tex]\frac{150s}{3+s}[/tex]. Find the acceleration in terms of s.
Solution:
[tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex] (V) = [tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex][[tex]\frac{150s}{3+s}[/tex]][tex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/tex] = 150 [tex]\frac{d}{dt}[/tex] [tex]\frac{s}{3+s}[/tex][tex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/tex] =150 [ [tex]\frac{(3+s)(s') - (s)(s')}{(3+s)^2]}[/tex][tex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/tex] = [tex]\frac{150s'}{(3+s)^2}[/tex]a= [tex]\frac{450v}{(3+s)^2}[/tex]
As you can see my final answer is a in terms of v and s, not s only .. .but am not sure what to do to getrid of this v..

Thanks
 
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There's a mistake between the third and forth lines. Also, what substitution can you make to get rid of v?
 
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ƒ(x) said:
There's a mistake between the third and forth lines. Also, what substitution can you make to get rid of v?
thanks, the 4th line should be [tex]\frac{dv}{dt}[/tex]= [tex]\frac{450v}{(3+s)^2}[/tex]

am not sure what sub. get rid of v.
but v' will give me a instead of v, but is that possible, i mean, if i want to get V' i will have to take thderivative for the whole thing.
 
Your original velocity equation expresses v in terms of s; use that.
 
kreil said:
Your original velocity equation expresses v in terms of s; use that.

sorry but i don't know what you mean .

The Question asked me to find a in terms of s , not v in terms of s
 
your expression for a is correct, but it contains a 'v'. in order to express a completely in terms of s, you need to use the equation [tex]v=\frac{150s}{3+s}[/tex] and plug this into your equation for a.
 
kreil said:
your expression for a is correct, but it contains a 'v'. in order to express a completely in terms of s, you need to use the equation [tex]v=\frac{150s}{3+s}[/tex] and plug this into your equation for a.

Ah, that make sense, thank you :D
 

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