Relationship of Young's modulus and impulse force

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between Young's modulus and impulse force in the context of a spring system. Participants clarify that Young's modulus (Y) is not directly applicable to springs as it is for materials under tension, emphasizing that the spring constant (k) and natural length (L0) are the relevant parameters. The equation Y = kL0 is established, while the cross-sectional area (A) is deemed unnecessary for this specific relationship. The impulse force (J) is analyzed in relation to the spring's behavior under external forces.

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Homework Statement



Is that possible to obtain the a relationship between Young's modulus of a spring and impulse force with below information ? I personally think that we cannot if without the given cross-sectional area A and the given spring constant k.

The particle is connect to a elastic spring, then an external impulse force horizontally was added to it.
(Smooth plate)

The given values are :

Particle mass ''m'', spring of modulus of elasticity ''E'', spring's natural length ''L'', received impulse ''J'', impulse reaction time ''t'', displacement ''x''

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The Attempt at a Solution


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F = kx => J/t = (EA/L) * (x)

Looks like the area is an essential value or we cannot express the equation for them.
 
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Howard_SSS said:
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E there is not Young's modulus of a spring. Young's modulus, often written as Y, is related to the spring constant k by Y=kL0.
Howard_SSS said:
F = kx => J/t
Not in this case. J=∫F.dt. You can only simplify that to J=Ft if F is constant.
 
haruspex said:
E there is not Young's modulus of a spring. Young's modulus, often written as Y, is related to the spring constant k by Y=kL0.

Not in this case. J=∫F.dt. You can only simplify that to J=Ft if F is constant.
Thanks for this reminding.

For Y=k*L0, may I know why you can remove the A (cross sectional area) ?
 
Howard_SSS said:
Thanks for this reminding.

For Y=k*L0, may I know why you can remove the A (cross sectional area) ?
EA, where E is the elastic modulus (not Young's modulus) is for a stretched wire. A regular coiled spring works by torsion, not by stretching of the material. Young's modulus is more suitable, and already incorporates the details of the spring structure. It is defined as the force per fractional change in spring length, so Y=kL0.
 
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