Relationships between variables, for use of optimization

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The discussion centers on optimizing the surface area of a right circular cylinder (steel drum) with a fixed volume V. The equations used include the volume of the cylinder, V = πr²h, and the surface area, S = 2πr² + 2πrh. The key finding is that the relationship between height (h) and radius (r) that minimizes surface area is expressed as r = h/2. This conclusion is derived by taking the derivative of the surface area with respect to radius and solving for critical points.

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Homework Statement



Build a steel drum (right circular cylinder) of fixed volume V. The cost of the material is the same for the top and sides (same gage and same cost) and disregard waste. What is the relationship between the height of the radius that will minimize the surface area of the cylinder?


Homework Equations


Volume of cylinder = πr²h
Surface area of cylinder = 2πr² + 2πrh

The Attempt at a Solution




Find the volume, because you have no actual value it is simply V:
V = πr²h

Set in terms of one variable:
h = V / (πr²)

Find surface are with respect to the volume of the cylinder:
S = 2πr² + 2πrh

therefore, in terms of a single variable r:
S = 2πr² + 2πr (V / πr²)

Take the derivative with respect to r so that you can find where surface area has a minimum.
S = 2πr² + ((2πrV) / (πr²))
dS = 4πr + ( πr²(2Vπ) - 2Vπr(2πr) ) / (πr²)² * dh/dr

Set the derivative to 0 and solve. But because I have no actual values, I solved for dh/dr. Was this correct?

0 = 4πr + ( πr²(2Vπ) - 2Vπr(2πr) ) / (πr²)² * dh/dr

-4πr = + ( πr²(2Vπ) - 2Vπr(2πr) ) / (πr²)² * dh/dr

-4πr / [( πr²(2Vπ) - 2Vπr(2πr) ) / (πr²)²] = dh/dr

Simplify

dh/dr = -4πr / [( πr²(2Vπ) - 2Vπr(2πr) ) / (πr²)²]

dh/dr = -4πr / [(-2V)/(r²)]

dh/dr = (2πr³) / V

Is this a proper relation between height and radius for the minimal surface area of the afore mentioned steel drum? I tend to mess up my derivatives and such in class.
 
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You are aware that
\frac{2\pi rV}{\pi r^2}= \frac{2V}{r}
aren't you? That's much easier to work with.
 
Ah. I am aware of it, yes. I did not notice notice it before taking the derivative. It would have made my life easier.

With the way that I've already done it, am I correct?

EDIT:

Okay, I reworked the problem and got this. I’m pretty sure that this is correct.

V = πr²h
S = 2 πr² + 2 πrh

h = V/(πr²)

so ::
S = 2 πr² + 2 πr(V/πr²)

S = 2 πr² + (2Vπr)/(πr²)
S = 2 πr² + (2V)/r

taking the derivative, I get:

ds/dr = 4 πr - 2V/r²

set to 0 and solve

0 = 4 πr - 2V/r²

2V/r² = 4 πr

r³ = (V) / (πr)

substitute in what V actually is:

r³ = (πr²h) / 2π

r³ = (r²h) / 2

r³/r² = (h) / 2

r = h/2
 
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