Calculus-derivative + word problem Can you check my procedure?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves optimizing the dimensions of a cylindrical can that holds a specific volume of juice while minimizing construction costs. The can's surface area and cost are influenced by different materials used for the top, bottom, and sides.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to connect the volume and surface area equations to derive a cost function. There is an emphasis on minimizing cost rather than surface area, leading to questions about the correct formulation of the cost function.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out that the original poster is attempting to minimize surface area instead of cost. Guidance has been offered to derive a cost function based on the materials used, and there is an ongoing exploration of how to relate height and radius in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of understanding the cost implications of different materials, with specific costs assigned to the cardboard sides and the metal top and bottom. There is a recognition that the problem requires careful consideration of these factors to arrive at the correct solution.

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Homework Statement



A cylindrical can is to hold 4π cubic units of juice. The cost per square unit of constructing the metal top and the bottom is twice the cost of constructing the cardboard side. what are the dimensions of least expensive can?
calculus must be used logically to solve this problem and work should be shown.

Homework Equations




The total surface area of the can is: A = 2πrh + 2πr²
The volume of the can is: V = πr²h = 4π, then h = 4/r²


The Attempt at a Solution



connect volume and area equation, A and V.

so that; A = 2πr(4/r²) + 2πr²

We want the area of the top to be a minimum while
having the same volume. Therefore, we need to minimize
r and vary the height. We will take the derivative of the
total surface to accomplish this aim.

dA/dr = 8π(-1/r²) + 4πr = 0,

r = ³√2,

and since the cost of Area of top is twice the area of cardboard; that is,

2πr² = 2(2πrh), then h = r/2

The dimensions for minimum material cost is then:

r = ³√2, and h = 2 ³√2

I did until this. And I will plug this h value and r value in area equation. But I am nut sure i am doing right. especially the part with [since the cost of Area of top is twice the area of cardboard;]
Pleas give me a hand.
 
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What you minimized was the surface area, but what you need to minimize is the cost of constructing the can. You know this because the question asks what are the dimensions the give the least expensive can. So come up with a cost function, and then minimize it.
 
Where you are going wrong is that you are trying to minimize the wrong thing. The problem does not ask you for minimum area. It wants minimum cost. So instead of writing a formula A = ... for area, you need to write a formula for cost:

C = ?

Hint: Assume the cardboard is $1 per square unit and the top and bottom are $2 per square unit. What would be the cost of the top and bottom? And the side? So you will have C = a formula with r and h in it. Then use your relation between h and r to get a formula for cost in terms of just r. Then go to work on dC/dr.
 
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LCKurtz said:
Where you are going wrong is that you are trying to minimize the wrong thing. The problem does not ask you for minimum area. It wants minimum cost. So instead of writing a formula V = ... for volume, you need to write a formula for cost.

Well that's what I just posted, and you mean "instead of writing a formula C = ... for cost", not volume. He still needs the volume equation to have the relation between h and r.
 
n!kofeyn said:
Well that's what I just posted, and you mean "instead of writing a formula C = ... for cost", not volume. He still needs the volume equation to have the relation between h and r.

Yep, fixed typo.
 

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